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Re: Interior Secretary repeals lead ban
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2017, 07:32:32 AM »
Word for word then:
Order no. 3346
Subject: Revocation of the United States fish and Wildlife service Directors Order NO. 219
(use of Nontoxic ammunition and Fishing tackle.)
Sec. 1 Purpose. this order Revokes Directors order 219 (Use of Non toxic ammunition and fishing tackle).
Sec 2. Background  On Jan 19, 2017 the director of he US fish and wildlife service (FWS) signed Directors order 219 (use of Non Toxic ammunition and fishing tackle).
the order stated that it was effective immediately until incorporated into the FWS manual, or until amended, superseded, or revoked.
Sec. 3 Authority his order is issued under the authority provided under section 2 of reorganization plan No.3 of 1950 (64 stat. 1262), as amended and other applicable authorities.
the secretary retains all authority delegated to the FWS director, including those listed in the Directors order. See 200 DM 1.9.
Sec 4 Determination After reviewing the order and the process by which it promulgated, I have determined that the order is not mandated(219) meaning!) by any existing statuary or regulatory requirement  and was issued without significant communication, consultation, or coordination with effected stakeholders. Giving these facts, I conclude that the order shodl be withdrawn.
Accordingly, the FWS directors order no. 219 (Use of Nontoxic ammunition, and fishing tackle) is hereby revoked.
Sec 5 Implementation  The director of FWS is directed to take all actions necessary to effectuate he revocation of directors order NO. 219.
Sec 6 This order is effective immediately.
Secretary of Interior his signature, and dated on the bottom as March 2nd 2017.
So sounds and looks like he revocked the old interiors Order to ban lead ammo and fishing tackle to me, even if that order was the day before Trump took office and only lasted until this guy took office he revoked that ban! and it does say the Director is to take full steps to see that this ban is undone. IE: The director of FWS is directed to take all actions necessary to effectuate he revocation of directors order NO. 219
And your point? Nobody is arguing that Zinke didn't revoke/rescind the order. You have two people (myself and Olyguy) who are well versed and well connected in the legal/law world who are saying no new regulation took effect.
:yeah: apparently Phil doesn't get the point. But I guess an LEO and a legislative assistant  have no idea about the legal system in his view and he's an expert. I'm starting to see why a lot of people roll their eyes at Phil...


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Re: Interior Secretary repeals lead ban
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2017, 09:54:05 PM »
Word for word then:
Order no. 3346
Subject: Revocation of the United States fish and Wildlife service Directors Order NO. 219
(use of Nontoxic ammunition and Fishing tackle.)
Sec. 1 Purpose. this order Revokes Directors order 219 (Use of Non toxic ammunition and fishing tackle).
Sec 2. Background  On Jan 19, 2017 the director of he US fish and wildlife service (FWS) signed Directors order 219 (use of Non Toxic ammunition and fishing tackle).
the order stated that it was effective immediately until incorporated into the FWS manual, or until amended, superseded, or revoked.
Sec. 3 Authority his order is issued under the authority provided under section 2 of reorganization plan No.3 of 1950 (64 stat. 1262), as amended and other applicable authorities.
the secretary retains all authority delegated to the FWS director, including those listed in the Directors order. See 200 DM 1.9.
Sec 4 Determination After reviewing the order and the process by which it promulgated, I have determined that the order is not mandated(219) meaning!) by any existing statuary or regulatory requirement  and was issued without significant communication, consultation, or coordination with effected stakeholders. Giving these facts, I conclude that the order shodl be withdrawn.
Accordingly, the FWS directors order no. 219 (Use of Nontoxic ammunition, and fishing tackle) is hereby revoked.
Sec 5 Implementation  The director of FWS is directed to take all actions necessary to effectuate he revocation of directors order NO. 219.
Sec 6 This order is effective immediately.
Secretary of Interior his signature, and dated on the bottom as March 2nd 2017.
So sounds and looks like he revocked the old interiors Order to ban lead ammo and fishing tackle to me, even if that order was the day before Trump took office and only lasted until this guy took office he revoked that ban! and it does say the Director is to take full steps to see that this ban is undone. IE: The director of FWS is directed to take all actions necessary to effectuate he revocation of directors order NO. 219
And your point? Nobody is arguing that Zinke didn't revoke/rescind the order. You have two people (myself and Olyguy) who are well versed and well connected in the legal/law world who are saying no new regulation took effect.
Hmmm ok Guess I Misunderstood what was being said. Self-defense mechanism kicks in when I feel I'm being trolled, or being called a liar.  :sry:
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Re: Interior Secretary repeals lead ban
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2017, 10:54:11 PM »
I had to point out to some moron on Facebook that Obama didn't stop the use of lead shot.  :rolleyes: And just because of this, lead shot would not be allowed in Skagit or other areas for waterfowl hunting.  But WE ALL KNOW Trump is the enviroantichrist....   :o

 


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