Poll- non magnifying scopes on muzzle loaders?

[trophyhunt]

A representative is asking on Facebook what people think about this, this is my opinion.               Non magnifying scope isn't going to guarantee a kill guys, it may help with reduced poor shots and finding game.  We still have an open breech, exposed to weather, we still have a single shot short range weapon. Hunters need to stick together, I really don't see how this changes a whole lot.  Fiber optic sights are pretty good and peep sights as well, those guys who shoot often and well probably won't be running to the store to put a non mag scope on.  Archery got expandable broadheads, and more let off, I've seen guys shoot over 100 yards accurately.  I was ok with expandable broad heads because I thought it would help a bit w accuracy and the recovery of wounded animals.  Rifle guys now have scopes that give them a 1,000 + yard shooting range!  I hunt with all 3 weapons, I also support all 3.  This isn't a green light that gives muzzy guys normal power scopes, when that option does come up, then I'd say no.  But non optics, not that big of a deal guys.  I fully support this!

[jackelope]

I voted no. It's supposed to be a primitive season.

[BULLBLASTER]

I say keep the glass and electronics off muzzys.

[jackmaster]

I voted NO , if people can't deal with open sights then they shouldn't be huntn with a primative weapon!! Of course I don't think compound bows should be legal either !!

[Skillet]

Nope.  The constant tech creep in these "primitive weapons seasons" is one of my biggest gripes. 

[JimmyHoffa]

I voted NO , if people can't deal with open sights then they shouldn't be huntn with a primative weapon!! Of course I don't think compound bows should be legal either !!

I take non-magnifying would include the fancy bullet drop compensators and such, so people would lob bullets to four hundo on elk.

[PolarBear]

Nope

[trophyhunt]

So let me understand this better, it's ok for archery and rifle equipment to have a steady increase in technology but one weapon group can't? 

[idahohuntr]

Nope.  The constant tech creep in these "primitive weapons seasons" is one of my biggest gripes.

I agree with this in principle...I hate the escalating arms race and range extensions of all weapon types.

But, I voted yes for non-magnifying scopes because I hate open sights! 

[JimmyHoffa]

So let me understand this better, it's ok for archery and rifle equipment to have a steady increase in technology but one weapon group can't?

Just because it is happening in other groups doesn't mean everyone thinks it's ok.

[jrebel]

I voted no.....the modern muzzleloader has progressed so much already, there is no need to add glass to it.  If I put glass on mine it would be a 250 yard gun all day long.  As is I am comfortable to 150+.   If you want to benefit muzzleloading at all, you should look at separating the deer and elk season so they don't overlap (almost 100%) as well as lengthening the season and opening more ground.  This user group really gets crapped on in my opinion.   

[Skillet]

So let me understand this better, it's ok for archery and rifle equipment to have a steady increase in technology but one weapon group can't?

Modern rifle, I have no problem with the arms race happening.  It's "modern."   I don't agree with any of the recent archery improvements like nocks and expanding heads (but haven't held an archery tag for umpteen years). 

I also think inlines don't follow the intended spirit of the season.  Neither do sabots.  Wish they'd do away with both of those as well.

[jrebel]

So let me understand this better, it's ok for archery and rifle equipment to have a steady increase in technology but one weapon group can't?

Modern rifle, I have no problem with the arms race happening.  It's "modern."   I don't agree with any of the recent archery improvements like nocks and expanding heads (but haven't held an archery tag for umpteen years). 

I also think inlines don't follow the intended spirit of the season.  Neither do sabots.  Wish they'd do away with both of those as well.

Just playing devils advocate....should archers and muzzleloader hunters hunt in loin cloth too.  Some advances are good and make for more ethical kills in my opinion. 

[trophyhunt]

So let me understand this better, it's ok for archery and rifle equipment to have a steady increase in technology but one weapon group can't?

Just because it is happening in other groups doesn't mean everyone thinks it's ok.

Your probably right, but it is happening, why not throw a bread crumb to the muzzy group?  I just don't think it's going to take success rates through the roof, lots of elements are still in play when it comes to muzzy. 

[jackmaster]

So let me understand this better, it's ok for archery and rifle equipment to have a steady increase in technology but one weapon group can't?

Just because it is happening in other groups doesn't mean everyone thinks it's ok.

Your probably right, but it is happening, why not throw a bread crumb to the muzzy group?  I just don't think it's going to take success rates through the roof, lots of elements are still in play when it comes to muzzy.

i am for better seasons, or longer, and more units to hunt in