POLL: 2nd Amendment Gun Rights for Non-Violent Felons?

[fish vacuum]

As it is today a person can kill another and still be able to get their gun rights back,Because they must be rehabilitated to get out of prison.


              solid yes.

Huh?

[Oh Mah]

huh,yes that's right.if if if they meet the requirements of that state.

[Mudman]

A technicality maybe but I would love to see an example of its occurrence.  And I don't mean some vehicle or accidental manslaughter case.

[jay.sharkbait]

Never

No firearms
No voting rights

I would also add owning property and access to all government services.

[Mudman]

Never

No firearms
No voting rights

I would also add owning property and access to all government services.

Man, that would cause more problems.  Might as well execute them.  If people cant get back on the right track it is a drain on society.  Either get it right or go to prison. We all should want them to get it right for everyones benefit.

[jay.sharkbait]

Never

No firearms
No voting rights

I would also add owning property and access to all government services.

Man, that would cause more problems.  Might as well execute them.  If people cant get back on the right track it is a drain on society.  Either get it right or go to prison. We all should want them to get it right for everyones benefit.

How about getting it right BEFORE committing the felony?

[Oh Mah]

A technicality maybe but I would love to see an example of its occurrence.  And I don't mean some vehicle or accidental manslaughter case.

I think these would be the only ones that would meet the qualifications,I wouldn't think murder could but who knows?Maybe a minor after serving?

[bigtex]

Is poaching a "non-violent felony"? There's a recent thread about how New Mexico made some poaching violations felonies which of course means no guns. Repeat big game poaching in WA is a felony.

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[bishop311]

Never

No firearms
No voting rights

I would also add owning property and access to all government services.

Sounds like you're setting yourself up for stripping yourself of firearms, voting rights, owning property and access to government services when the government cooks up some BS "felony" to convict you with.  The easiest way to destroy someone is to create a felony with which to charge them, and your opinion makes that very, very easy.

[KFhunter]

People that can't be trusted with possession of firearms should remain in
prison forever. Taking away a person's right to possess firearms does not prevent them from continuing to committ crimes with the use of a firearm. All it does is prevent them from participating in legal activities such as hunting. In my opinion once a felon has served his time and is deemed not a danger, and is released from prison they should have all the same rights as every other US citizen.

They don't, they get let out very early or do no time at all.  This quandary is impossible to answer because there's so many things broken before we ever ask if felons should have a gun or not. 

*if* felons did their full allotment of time

and

*if* they weren't paroled

and

*if* other mitigating factors aren't involved

and

*if* the felony committed is non-violent

and

*if* all reparations are paid criminally and civilly


well that will never happen

vote no

[jay.sharkbait]

Never

No firearms
No voting rights

I would also add owning property and access to all government services.

Sounds like you're setting yourself up for stripping yourself of firearms, voting rights, owning property and access to government services when the government cooks up some BS "felony" to convict you with.  The easiest way to destroy someone is to create a felony with which to charge them, and your opinion makes that very, very easy.

Prison is full of innocent people, right?

[bishop311]

Prison is full of innocent people, right?

If you don't think that innocent people are convicted of felonies in every single state, then you're a special kind of stupid.

[KFhunter]

Prison is full of innocent people, right?

If you don't think that innocent people are convicted of felonies in every single state, then you're a special kind of stupid.

They are, it's proven. However no system is perfect.  These are collateral damages.  Fortunately the numbers are very small.


This argument has no merit or basis for consideration.

[jay.sharkbait]

Prison is full of innocent people, right?

If you don't think that innocent people are convicted of felonies in every single state, then you're a special kind of stupid.

Your reading comprehension is lacking. Or is English a second language for you?

[bishop311]

Fortunately the numbers are very small.

Prove it.  How would you know the numbers are small when all you have to go off of are the wrongly convicted that we actually know about?

This argument has no merit or basis for consideration.

Something tells me that your opinion would change quite sharply if you found yourself to be 'collateral damage'.

Your reading comprehension is lacking. Or is English a second language for you?

I assure you, jay.sharkbait, I read your post perfectly well.  What about my statement confuses you?  You're the one who wants to pass Jim Crow laws, e.g. no second amendment rights, no voting rights, no right to own property and no access to government services.  Frankly In light of your statement regarding this, I think you're the one with serious intellectual issues.