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The agreement (if you really wanna call it that) is done annually I believe.
Quote from: Antlershed on May 06, 2017, 06:02:24 PMThe agreement (if you really wanna call it that) is done annually I believe.I thought agreement was exactly what it is called.
word is it will be the same as last year... Regs show it that way as well already. Nisqually is jacked up as well, closes right when the silver run starts to heat up.. It boiled with silvers last year after they closed it. frustrating.
After speaking to one of the highest guys dealing with these issues I'd put it at 50/50
Quote from: Odell on May 09, 2017, 10:11:36 AMAfter speaking to one of the highest guys dealing with these issues I'd put it at 50/50Thanks Odell,could you explain please what you've heard?Are they thinking of closing it to non tribal again or for good?
Everyone needs to realize that the state literally has zero say in what the tribes do. It's a federal issue that the feds will not touch. The state can bicker back and forth and wheel and deal and try to make an "agreement" but as soon WDFW tries to dig their heals in and make a stand, the tribes will just say f.o. and do whatever they want anyway.The state's hands are literally tied shut. They have to use the best available science to establish fisheries for sportsman and non-tribal commercial fisheries. If that science says the run is going to be depressed, they don't have an option but to cut our seasons. The tribes will continue to do what they want until the Fed's take them to court over it. Public outcry, news, social and other forms of media are the only way to shed light on the situation, and it is slowly beginning to take effect. Giant piles of rotting salmon dumped after gill netting for eggs are great. If we could get pictures of downstream endangered Skagit winter steelhead in gill nets while they fish for springers, that would be great too. Eventually enough of the general public will see the light and the cryout will begin. The tribes will have to back pedal to save face.
Quote from: 7mmfan on May 11, 2017, 09:19:35 AMEveryone needs to realize that the state literally has zero say in what the tribes do. It's a federal issue that the feds will not touch. The state can bicker back and forth and wheel and deal and try to make an "agreement" but as soon WDFW tries to dig their heals in and make a stand, the tribes will just say f.o. and do whatever they want anyway.The state's hands are literally tied shut. They have to use the best available science to establish fisheries for sportsman and non-tribal commercial fisheries. If that science says the run is going to be depressed, they don't have an option but to cut our seasons. The tribes will continue to do what they want until the Fed's take them to court over it. Public outcry, news, social and other forms of media are the only way to shed light on the situation, and it is slowly beginning to take effect. Giant piles of rotting salmon dumped after gill netting for eggs are great. If we could get pictures of downstream endangered Skagit winter steelhead in gill nets while they fish for springers, that would be great too. Eventually enough of the general public will see the light and the cryout will begin. The tribes will have to back pedal to save face.Thats a great point,we don't need the eggs if we cant fish they lose money.The state could put an outright ban on all non tribal gambling,if they don't want to play fair.
I have fished the Puyallup for over 10 years and this is ridiculous. I am about at the point that the river should only be open to natives (hear me out). After a couple years and when no salmon are in the river anymore, we will know who to blame...not like that would actually stop them from netting and throwing half of their days catch on the bank to rot.
Quote from: nwmein199 on May 17, 2017, 01:55:35 PMI have fished the Puyallup for over 10 years and this is ridiculous. I am about at the point that the river should only be open to natives (hear me out). After a couple years and when no salmon are in the river anymore, we will know who to blame...not like that would actually stop them from netting and throwing half of their days catch on the bank to rot. The natives control the hatcheries?Hence why the pinks are their instead of Stealhead and hardly any other salmon besides pinks.