collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Blue Tongue bad this year?  (Read 2436 times)

Offline LDennis24

  • Bear poker
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2010
  • Posts: 5452
Blue Tongue bad this year?
« on: June 01, 2017, 08:46:02 AM »
What does everyone think of the possibility of this year being a bad one for blue tongue? There's a lot if stagnant water all over from this spring still and I'm guessing some of it will harbor disease this summer.

Offline tracksoup

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 220
  • Location: Deer Park
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2017, 08:58:44 AM »
Their is a lot of moving water also. I think it will be ok this year with the snow pack we got.

Offline Mfowl

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (+6)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2012
  • Posts: 4396
  • Location: westside
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2017, 09:00:34 AM »
I thought blue tongue happened in drought conditions when the little remaining water becomes contaminated. But I'm no expert by any means.
Fish hard, hunt harder!

Offline tracksoup

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 220
  • Location: Deer Park
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2017, 09:01:58 AM »
 :yeah:

Offline LDennis24

  • Bear poker
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Nov 2010
  • Posts: 5452
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2017, 09:43:16 AM »
It's anywhere that there's stagnant water for the gnats to lay eggs in. If you have moving water nearby then it won't hurt the deer as they are smart enough to drink cleaner moving water most of the time. But in some areas like Cheney you have ALOT if standing water that becomes algae filled and full of larvae by the end of summer.

Offline DOUBLELUNG

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 5837
  • Location: Wenatchee
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2017, 09:59:49 AM »
The Culicoides gnat that transmits hemorrhagic disease in big game requires warm, fecal-contaminated water for breeding.  Big die-offs occur when deer are concentrated near water by late summer drought, in search of green forage. Spring conditions don't readily indicate how pervasive those conditions will be in August-September, unfortunately, so there is no good way to predict the severity before seasons are set.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

Offline jackelope

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+29)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 50320
  • Location: Duvall, WA
  • Groups: jackelope
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2017, 10:10:00 AM »
The Culicoides gnat that transmits hemorrhagic disease in big game requires warm, fecal-contaminated water for breeding.  Big die-offs occur when deer are concentrated near water by late summer drought, in search of green forage. Spring conditions don't readily indicate how pervasive those conditions will be in August-September, unfortunately, so there is no good way to predict the severity before seasons are set.

Thanks for sharing your expertise, sir.
:tup:
:fire.:

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield

My posts, opinions and statements do not represent those of this forum

Offline DOUBLELUNG

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 5837
  • Location: Wenatchee
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2017, 10:29:24 AM »
The Culicoides gnat that transmits hemorrhagic disease in big game requires warm, fecal-contaminated water for breeding.  Big die-offs occur when deer are concentrated near water by late summer drought, in search of green forage. Spring conditions don't readily indicate how pervasive those conditions will be in August-September, unfortunately, so there is no good way to predict the severity before seasons are set.

Thanks for sharing your expertise, sir.
:tup:

You're very kind.  I'm not an expert but was fortunate enough to study under one of the top wildlife diseases specialists in the U.S., Dr. Elizabeth Williams at the University of Wyoming, and to work with top notch wildlife vets and pathologists.
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

Offline jackelope

  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+29)
  • Legend
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 50320
  • Location: Duvall, WA
  • Groups: jackelope
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2017, 10:39:20 AM »
Call it what you want. You're a lot more an expert than most of the rest of us.
 :tup:
:fire.:

" In today's instant gratification society, more and more pressure revolves around success and the measurement of one's prowess as a hunter by inches on a score chart or field photos produced on social media. Don't fall into the trap. Hunting is-and always will be- about the hunt, the adventure, the views, and time spent with close friends and family. " Ryan Hatfield

My posts, opinions and statements do not represent those of this forum

Offline elkboy

  • Political & Covid-19 Topics
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 1809
  • Location: Corvallis, Oregon
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2017, 11:05:05 AM »
Doublelung is right that we can't predict late summer conditions at this point!  However, I am truly hopeful with the abundant snow and rainfall this year, and the generally cooler temperatures, that we can avoid repetition of the 2015 bluetongue outbreak...

Online brew

  • Non-Hunting Topics
  • Trade Count: (+17)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2010
  • Posts: 1835
  • Location: yelm
Re: Blue Tongue bad this year?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2017, 04:19:09 PM »
do blacktails get this disease ?   i saw 2 does last year that had these symptoms...swollen tongue hanging out of their mouths-not just sticking out but hanging down about 4"...both were within a mile of each other so don't know it could have been the same deer but the timeframe was 3 months apart
beer---it's whats for dinner

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

Nevada bull hunt 2025 by Dan-o
[Today at 09:29:51 AM]


AUCTION: SE Idaho DIY Deer or Deer/Elk Hunt by Dan-o
[Today at 09:26:43 AM]


49 Degrees North Early Bull Moose by washingtonmuley
[Today at 09:23:31 AM]


Survey in ? by hdshot
[Today at 09:20:27 AM]


I'm Going To Need Karl To Come up With That 290 Muley Sunscreen Bug Spray Combo by andrew_in_idaho
[Today at 09:18:45 AM]


Kings by washingtonmuley
[Today at 08:42:03 AM]


Bear behavior by brew
[Today at 08:40:20 AM]


Bearpaw Outfitters Annual July 4th Hunt Sale by bearpaw
[Today at 07:57:12 AM]


A lonely Job... by Loup Loup
[Today at 07:47:41 AM]


2025 Crab! by trophyhunt
[Today at 06:52:44 AM]


2025 Montana alternate list by bear
[Today at 06:06:48 AM]


Accura MR-X 45 load development by kyles_88
[Today at 05:27:26 AM]


Son drawn - Silver Dollar Youth Any Elk - Help? by Boss .300 winmag
[Yesterday at 09:42:07 PM]


Toutle Quality Bull - Rifle by HntnFsh
[Yesterday at 08:09:14 PM]


MA-10 Coho by WAcoueshunter
[Yesterday at 02:08:31 PM]


KODIAK06 2025 trail cam and personal pics thread by kodiak06
[Yesterday at 01:52:01 PM]


Blue Mtn Foothills West Rifle Tag by Trooper
[Yesterday at 01:18:40 PM]


GROUSE 2025...the Season is looming! by Dave Workman
[Yesterday at 01:01:22 PM]


50 inch SXS and Tracks? by jrebel
[Yesterday at 11:20:33 AM]


Sockeye Numbers by Southpole
[Yesterday at 11:12:46 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal