300 caliber

[Coasthunterjay]

I need an educated opinion......so i need your guys help...

I am looking at getting a stainless browning A-bolt stalker in 300WSM with BOSS. But i have worry about the difference of the WSM versus the WM.

I also dont know anything about the BOSS system....any opinions....?

What do we think...good gun? can you guys help. i want to know more about the round, boss, and browning?

let me know guys....Thanks!

[bucklucky]

I would not get the boss, its fricken LOUD! The A-Bolt is a good gun. Cant go wrong with it, its nice that it has a clip that hooks into the floor plate (sp) . I bought a Boss for my wife in 270, we shot it a few times and got rid of it. The 300 mag or wsm doesnt kick bad enough to warrent a boss. My wife has a 300 wsm and loves it and it does not have a boss. Balistics are comparable. The wsm isnt quite as good balistic wise but its really splitting hairs.

[509er]

Had a browning BAR in 300wm with a Boss.  Never shot it until after I sold it to a friend. Was a smooth shooting gun, alot less recoil than My Ruger bolt action 300wm.  Shot great also.  I think there is not alot of difference between the 300 wsm and the 300 wm performance wise.  Just depends on you preference and if you want a long action or short action. again just my  .

[509er]

Oh yeah, the Boss was very loud!   The gun came with about 15 bright orange warning labels on it warning about the noise and muzzleblast.

[270Shooter]

You can get the BOSS without the brake. A-bolts are good guns too. WSM and WM are ballistic twins.

[jdb]

Personally I would go with a wsm. like has been said theyre near identical balisticly speaking but I perfer a short action rifle. I recently read a quote by one of the big name custom rifle builders who said out to 300 yards you wont be able to tell any diffrence between the .308 and the .300 magnums.

[Coyote Control]

Well heres my take on the two that you mention.

300 WM:
Easy to find loaded ammo.
Very little difference in velocity compared to the WSM
If reloading, casings are cheaper to buy.

300 WSM:
Shorter action - hence a little less wt. to pack around.
If reloading this round, accuracy might be a little better than the WM, but it may not.

If you have not shot a rifle with Boss, then you might want to try it first before you buy it, some guys have reported to much "recoil" and have returned them. Oh, and don't forget the NOISE that it will make.

Opinion:
I like my Rem 700 in the 300 WM. Would I buy a 300 WSM? Only if I didn't have the WM, then I would get a WSM in a Rem 700. I have never been a fan of Brownings or Winchester's, but a Savage might work if I didn't go with a Rem.

There ya go, did it help any?

[Coasthunterjay]

so you think the money would be better spent on a remington with a brake? Im not worried about the sound, i will always use hearing protection unless hunting and if im hunting i only plan on making one or two shots.

But i need the reduced kick, i had shoulder surgery and will do whatever i can do to reduce the recoil....that and i have heard good things about the boss.....

i heard the boss is great for tuning rounds....that and if i go 300WSM i will probably buy some upper priced ammo and stick with it....so i kind of like the idea of tunable........

is the Boss that load?

[huntnphool]

But i need the reduced kick, i had shoulder surgery and will do whatever i can do to reduce the recoil

Then why not go with a round that generally has less recoil? Do you really need a .300 caliber for hunting?

[Coasthunterjay]

ABSOLUTELY!

that is the round i want so thats what im getting....

[huntnphool]

that is the round i want so thats what im getting....

Down Cujo, you're the one that was concerned about the recoil, I was simply asking a question, relax

[bobcat]

Well I guess if you must have a 300 magnum and you're recoil sensitive, then the brake is a good deal. Just be sure to always wear ear protection. The 300 WSM is similar to the 30-06 ballistically. Slightly more velocity but not much. Good cartridge but so is the 30-06.

Now that I think about it, to me it really doesn't make sense to buy a 300 WSM in a rifle as light as the A-Bolt. Try to find it in a heavier rifle. That will do a lot to keep the felt recoil down, plus a good recoil pad. My main hunting rifle is an A-Bolt but in a 270 Winchester. Even with it being in 270 it was uncomfortable to shoot from the bench after 15 to 20 shots, until I added a limbsaver recoil pad.

You might also consider going with a 30-06. Compare the ballistics and you'll see the 300 WSM doesn't give you any real advantage.

[cabin308]

  on the recoil pad.  I also use the Sims Limbsaver on my tikka T3 300wsm and it gives a significant reduction in the recoil compared to the stock pad.  Like bobcat said, it got kinda painful after a dozen rounds or so from the bench without the pad, then I added the pad and it was a night and day difference for me.

[GoldTip]

From the factory the 300wm and the 300wsm are essentially ballistic twins.  However, when you go pick up your first box of "upper end" ammo for your wsm and pay $48 for it, you may get interested in handloading really quick, especially if you intend to shoot it alot.  And when you start to reload that is when the 300wm really  shines over the wsm.  Especially when shooting heavier for caliber bullets, those longer 180gr bullets(especially barnes, scirroco or accubond) take up a lot of space in a WSM case where you will shoving powder in the Win Mag case.  From what I have seen you can duplicate factory velocities when reloading the WSM, but not many have found ways to increase theose velocities when loading the 180gr pills.  But with the Win mag you can quite readily and safely increase velocities by as much as 200fps. 

Also stay away from a brake on your gun.  If you need the brake to shoot the gun, then you are too recoil sensitive and will most likely begin flinching because your already scared of the recoil before you even shoot it.  Stick with a lesser recoiling caliber or get  a slightly heavier gun then the a-bolt and add a Sims pad for sure.

[Alan K]

I shoot a BAR in the .300 WSM. . . I've never used a .300 WM so I couldn't tell you how they compare.  I do love it though!

You don't feel the kick when you shoot at something, so unless you're planning on doing a ton of target shooting with it (expensive!), then I'd pass on the BOSS.