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Offline Gringo31

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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #120 on: May 31, 2017, 07:38:12 AM »
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....


Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun.  I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out.  I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community".  I apologize for any unneeded BS.  It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum.  Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted?  Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.

Gringo





P.S.  I'm still intimidated by Smachalope.  :chuckle:
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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #121 on: May 31, 2017, 07:40:21 AM »
I have already been threatened by Shane on Facebook. Told him to bring it on, and I've never seen or heard another word from him ever since.
I'm told by people that were close to him that he has a draft letter all written up that he sends out to people and threaten lawsuit of slander, It's a letter that he wrote up himself to scare people from saying anything negative about him.

I don't give a rat's behind what that guy thinks, he has crossed and screwed over plenty of people that have posted clearly on public forums, and Facebook with names and dates.

I personally know of a gun that he borrowed from somebody and would not give it back, had it for over a year and as soon as the person posted on Facebook about the situation he returned it the next day.

So yes this guy is scum.

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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #122 on: May 31, 2017, 07:43:19 AM »
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.

You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.



You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
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Key words formal, legal and lawful and I don't think it allows huntwa to post it publicly.



How's about just be responsible for what you post. Don't be a jerk, and don't put the owner of the forum at risk for your actions?
What's wrong with that? It's a simple request.
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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #123 on: May 31, 2017, 07:55:11 AM »
wow. I saw this yesterday and I cant believe there is 5 pages. What's so hard to understand.?????

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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #124 on: May 31, 2017, 07:58:04 AM »
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.

You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.



You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163263.0.html
Specifically:
You remain solely responsible for the content that you post. Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries. The owners of this forum reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint, legal, or lawful action arising from your use of this forum.
After you register and login to this forum, you will be able to fill out a detailed profile and post content on the forum. It is your responsibility to present acceptable information and material. Your IP address is recorded and may be used in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted due to a major violation of this agreement.


Key words formal, legal and lawful and I don't think it allows huntwa to post it publicly.



How's about just be responsible for what you post. Don't be a jerk, and don't put the owner of the forum at risk for your actions?
What's wrong with that? It's a simple request.

Please re-read my post and your red highlights

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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #125 on: May 31, 2017, 08:04:52 AM »
First names aren't enough for future reference. We'll need the full name.

You guys are kidding right? What is the plan for vetting? This may come as a shock but my real name isn't jay sharkbait.



You'll have to ask Dale. I'm pretty sure he's not kidding. If you plan to slander a business or a person, be prepared to take responsibility for it. Why would Dale or the forum be responsible for your actions?
For the sake of reinforcement, when you all signed up as members of the forum, you agreed to some things and stuff.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,163263.0.html
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You remain solely responsible for the content that you post. Furthermore, you agree to indemnify and hold harmless the owners of this forum, any related websites to this forum, its staff, and its subsidiaries. The owners of this forum reserve the right to reveal your identity (or any other related information collected on this service) in the event of a formal complaint, legal, or lawful action arising from your use of this forum.
After you register and login to this forum, you will be able to fill out a detailed profile and post content on the forum. It is your responsibility to present acceptable information and material. Your IP address is recorded and may be used in the event that you need to be banned from this forum or your ISP contacted due to a major violation of this agreement.


Key words formal, legal and lawful and I don't think it allows huntwa to post it publicly.



How's about just be responsible for what you post. Don't be a jerk, and don't put the owner of the forum at risk for your actions?
What's wrong with that? It's a simple request.

Please re-read my post and your red highlights

Maybe I'm missing something, but the stuff in red seems to say to me that if Hunt-WA gets threatened with a lawsuit over something you post on here, Hunt-WA can reveal your identity to whoever. Correct me if I'm wrong.
But aside from all that, really, what's so hard to understand? Don't say stuff that will put the forum in jeopardy. If you decide to, man up and post your identity. Take responsibility for your action!
 
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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #126 on: May 31, 2017, 08:08:34 AM »
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....


Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun.  I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out.  I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community".  I apologize for any unneeded BS.  It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum.  Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted?  Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.

Gringo





P.S.  I'm still intimidated by Smachalope.  :chuckle:

Thank you.
Someone gets it.
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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #127 on: May 31, 2017, 08:11:35 AM »
From what I have been reading,If you are a real customer ,with a negative or positive review there's not much legal right a bussiness can do about your review of service.But when you give false reviews or just don't like them,so give negative reviews of a bussiness,without being a customer, then u can get in trouble.so I can see bearpaw concern for the legal rights of the forum.

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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #128 on: May 31, 2017, 08:13:18 AM »
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....


Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun.  I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out.  I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community".  I apologize for any unneeded BS.  It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum.  Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted?  Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.

Gringo





P.S.  I'm still intimidated by Smachalope.  :chuckle:

Thank you.
Someone gets it.


He's only saying that because he's afraid of your left hook and reach advantage.  :chuckle:

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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #129 on: May 31, 2017, 08:15:13 AM »
My guess is when someone decides to step up to the plate and name this outfitter again and make claims about him there will be another lawsuit threat.  At that time Dale can provide the lawyer the name of the individual making the claims, the screen name, the email address and the IP address.  The lawyer can take it from there and that individual will then have to respond.

FYI this guy isn't dumb, the law firm that he hired and the lawyer in particular specializes in this type of internet stuff as I recall from my search on them.  With the information that you have already given to be a member of this forum they will have no problem tracking you down.

What I still don't get is why people want to talk about this outfitter or the other few that come up from time to time and put the forum at risk of a lawsuit.  The owner has asked to let it go and people continue to bring this stuff up.  Then when he gives them a way to do it they complain about that and don't want to follow those rules or shoot holes in why that won't work.
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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #130 on: May 31, 2017, 08:16:51 AM »
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....


Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun.  I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out.  I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community".  I apologize for any unneeded BS.  It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum.  Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted?  Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.

Gringo





P.S.  I'm still intimidated by Smachalope.  :chuckle:

Thank you.
Someone gets it.

That's why Amazon,midway,and others send emails for reviews after you purchess items for reviews,and other websites try to weed out false reviews and try to get reviews from customer's and not non customers.

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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #131 on: May 31, 2017, 08:17:02 AM »
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....


Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun.  I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out.  I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community".  I apologize for any unneeded BS.  It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum.  Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted?  Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.

Gringo





P.S.  I'm still intimidated by Smachalope.  :chuckle:

Thank you.
Someone gets it.


He's only saying that because he's afraid of your left hook and reach advantage.  :chuckle:
He has 3 reach advantages.
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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #132 on: May 31, 2017, 08:17:58 AM »
I'm still in the dark as to what outfitter this thread is even about.   


I am fine with it remaining that way.

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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #133 on: May 31, 2017, 08:18:31 AM »
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....


Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun.  I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out.  I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community".  I apologize for any unneeded BS.  It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum.  Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted?  Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.

Gringo





P.S.  I'm still intimidated by Smachalope.  :chuckle:

Thank you.
Someone gets it.


He's only saying that because he's afraid of your left hook and reach advantage.  :chuckle:
He has 3 reach advantages.
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Re: *censored* outfitters
« Reply #134 on: May 31, 2017, 08:19:51 AM »
Just a shout out to Bearpaw and the mods.....


Out of ignorance, it's easy (speaking for myself) to not understand what the risks and or consequences could be of what we would call fun.  I'm not talking of slandering a business for "fun", I mean to dance around the guidelines of what has been laid out.  I for one really appreciate this forum and this "community".  I apologize for any unneeded BS.  It would be interesting to know what the real rules and risks are with the owner of a forum.  Does the owner of Google or Facebook have risk for what is posted?  Also, in the event that a lawsuit came up for something as dumb as people voicing their comments on a person and Bearpaw was sued....... in all seriousness, I'll donate the first hour billed by an attorney.

Gringo





P.S.  I'm still intimidated by Smachalope.  :chuckle:

Thank you.
Someone gets it.


He's only saying that because he's afraid of your left hook and reach advantage.  :chuckle:
He has 3 reach advantages.

Wow. :yike:
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