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Black cod !!
« on: June 05, 2017, 01:35:53 PM »
How many of you guys caught and ate one of these fine fish? I ain't talking, lingcod, or true cod !! I have eaten a lot of fish in my life and always thought that ling, seabass, halibut were the best tasting when it came to salt water fish, then a couple weekends or so ago on that halibut day, I caught a big black cod in 800 ft of water, I lucked into him I guess because I was told that you generally won't catch them until you reach the 1,000ft depth !! Any of you fellas have any knowledge on these fish ? I can tell with absolute certainty that it's the BEST damn fish I have EVER eaten !!
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2017, 01:45:45 PM »
Pics please.

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Re: Black cod !!
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2017, 01:55:07 PM »
I have caught them at Swiftsure in far less than 800'. It is true that they are a deepwater fish though. It was many years ago and I don't recall them being significantly better than lings or 'buts. They are a oily fish compared to others. They are also known as sablefish. Congrats! Glad you enjoyed it.
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2017, 01:58:20 PM »
I wish I would have got a few pics , it was a great day for fishing but crap seas out there, rough and windy and a 49 Mile ride out!! Still a great day with a few buddies !!
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2017, 01:59:36 PM »
My buddy used to bring burlap bags full of black cod down from Alaska.  We smoked it and there is nothing better. 

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2017, 02:00:50 PM »
I have caught them at Swiftsure in far less than 800'. It is true that they are a deepwater fish though. It was many years ago and I don't recall them being significantly better than lings or 'buts. They are a oily fish compared to others. They are also known as sablefish. Congrats! Glad you enjoyed it.
you I thought it would be the same thing as halibut and ling and seabass but to me it wasn't and your right about it being oily and I ain't sure but I was thinking it gave it a different taste, I cooked up all the different ones and that black cod sure tasted different to me!! Enough so that I would like to fish for just those.
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2017, 02:04:21 PM »
I have caught them at Swiftsure in far less than 800'. It is true that they are a deepwater fish though. It was many years ago and I don't recall them being significantly better than lings or 'buts. They are a oily fish compared to others. They are also known as sablefish. Congrats! Glad you enjoyed it.
i am sure I am wrong here and I ain't saying your mixing them up but are you sure you weren't mistaking true cod for black cod ? Just a question
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2017, 02:06:35 PM »
Right on, blackcod is also known as sablefish. Its a huge commercial fishery in the US Pacific Ocean. I have had quite a bit of it and get sent every year to cook it at National Oceans Week in WA, DC every year.

If you have any left. Try pre-smoking it with a dry brine of salt and brown sugar for a short duration, then smoke for 45 mins with low heat high smoke. Then cooking it over briquettes with a light sprinkling of pepper and lightly coat the grill with peanut oil so the fish doesn't stick.

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2017, 02:13:54 PM »
I have caught them at Swiftsure in far less than 800'. It is true that they are a deepwater fish though. It was many years ago and I don't recall them being significantly better than lings or 'buts. They are a oily fish compared to others. They are also known as sablefish. Congrats! Glad you enjoyed it.
i am sure I am wrong here and I ain't saying your mixing them up but are you sure you weren't mistaking true cod for black cod ? Just a question

I'm sure, I've caught true cod as well in both Sekiu and Neah Bay. Could be that when I ate it it just wasn't cooked the best way  :dunno:. I just don't specifically remember it being that much better. Again it was many years ago and perhaps if I tried it again I might have a different take?
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2017, 02:18:12 PM »
He's definitely talking black cod, not true cod-



The 7#+ carcasses are getting more at the dock per # than 20-40 halibut right now, over $7/#.  Got a buddy fishing the Clarence Strait opener as I type.

I've actually run into a few schools of 1-ish #'ers while trolling, have caught them on coho spoons as shallow as 35 fa last summer. 

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2017, 02:25:17 PM »
Right on, blackcod is also known as sablefish. Its a huge commercial fishery in the US Pacific Ocean. I have had quite a bit of it and get sent every year to cook it at National Oceans Week in WA, DC every year.

If you have any left. Try pre-smoking it with a dry brine of salt and brown sugar for a short duration, then smoke for 45 mins with low heat high smoke. Then cooking it over briquettes with a light sprinkling of pepper and lightly coat the grill with peanut oil so the fish doesn't stick.
definetly gonna try it this way, thank you
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2017, 02:28:37 PM »
Damn skillet those are some fine looking fish there, I also heard that I think it's the humpback whales up in Alaska actually target the long liners that fish for black cod and have got so good at it that they can strip a whole string without touching a hook, I am guessing they are looking for that oily content  :dunno:
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2017, 02:32:41 PM »
Oh, those aren't mine. I don't have any quota...

It's actually orcas and sperm whales that are hammering the black cod fleet.  Last year there was actually a sperm whale that was stripping the longliners up in lower Chatham Strait. They are trying to encourage a pot fishery for them to minimize predation, but initial findings are that the average size is significantly lower than longlining.
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2017, 02:59:22 PM »
AKA butterfish, which is what they taste like to me - almost too rich for my liking straight up broiled, baked or grilled - the thought of deep frying it makes me a little queasy.  Best smoked fish I've ever had (from a commercial house in Nanaimo BC), when I cook it again I'll use a savory or spicy sauce to cut some of that buttery richness.  You can sometimes find it reasonably priced at Costco, last time I got it I think it was $7.99/lb for fresh whole gutted, head off.

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2017, 03:06:19 PM »
Kippered or smoked is the way to go w/black cod

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2017, 03:17:05 PM »
Used to catch them often enough long lining. I usually slowly simmered them in a big pot with teriyaki sauce then served over rice. It was good. Used to be a guy could catch 7k lbs a week (or two weeks, hard to recall) without a permit. Not sure if that holds true anymore

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2017, 03:18:38 PM »
Look up Nobu Miso black cod recipe and see what you find. Marinated for 3 days in Sake, miso, sugar mixture, then baked and finished in the broiler. Very nice!

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2017, 03:23:57 PM »
It's crazy, as long as I have been fishn sekiu and neah bay and have never caught one, I talked to a couple long liners that go out for halibut and do really well on black cod but it was always a lot deeper than I cared to fish, I was only fishing 800 ft because my buddy has some really nice BIG electric reels !! Is there a specific type bottom you guys fish that are catching them in shallow water ?
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2017, 03:25:31 PM »
Used to catch them often enough long lining. I usually slowly simmered them in a big pot with teriyaki sauce then served over rice. It was good. Used to be a guy could catch 7k lbs a week (or two weeks, hard to recall) without a permit. Not sure if that holds true anymore

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You got me thinking because I should know these. The open access DTL fishery is limited to 300 lbs/day, 1,000 per week and not to exceed 2,000 per two months. This is from the federal regulations 50 cfr 660.

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2017, 03:52:35 PM »
The times I caught black cod was from 500 to 900 ft

Electric reel of course

They are one of my favorite fish to eat

Best smoked fish ever. Even better than salmon or whitefish

I use this recipe when not want to smoke

Very good delicate flavor

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2017, 04:53:21 PM »
Did a Canadian halibut trip out of Neah Bay one year and could not keep these things off our lines. Kept quite few but everywhere we stopped it was Black Cod took till the end of the day when the tide changed to get Halibut. They are tasty and really good smoked as has been mentioned.  :tup:
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2017, 05:25:19 PM »
Used to catch them often enough long lining. I usually slowly simmered them in a big pot with teriyaki sauce then served over rice. It was good. Used to be a guy could catch 7k lbs a week (or two weeks, hard to recall) without a permit. Not sure if that holds true anymore

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2017, 06:40:39 PM »
I long lined up in Alaska for black cod and halibut. One trip we brought in 46,000 pounds of cut blackcod. That's deheaded and no guts. My hands were swollen for sure. That was fishing West Yakutat a very good area. Love smoked black cod it's my favorite.

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2017, 07:06:03 PM »
Smoked and just warmed up! Also have had it as sushi, smoked with a sauce. Don't know what it is was but I was willing to pay a lot for just a couple of pieces. One of my favorite seafoods!

That's great you were able to get some of the WA coast! I would fish for them in a heart beat if I could!
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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2017, 07:14:50 PM »
My cousin is a commercial halibut and black cod fisherman in Alaska. He would bring both to hunting camp and spoil us.  There is no better eating fish! 

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2017, 07:41:38 PM »
If anyone makes it up to Sitka this summer there is a food truck in town called Ashmos. She has black cod tips on the menu and they are amazing. I usually spend 5 days in Sitka in August and will have them at least twice.

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« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2017, 06:18:50 AM »
Smoked and just warmed up! Also have had it as sushi, smoked with a sauce. Don't know what it is was but I was willing to pay a lot for just a couple of pieces. One of my favorite seafoods!

That's great you were able to get some of the WA coast! I would fish for them in a heart beat if I could!
that is definetly the plan jmscon, only issue here is, is the fathom restriction that they only lift on halibut days, if I knew how to catch them in shallow water I would certainly do it, I have been fishn the salt most of my 45 years and have always fished halibut and have never caught one until a couple weeks ago !! I would like to go this Saturday and go out to grays shelf and start at about 1000 ft but the weather doesn't look that great and a couple weeks ago it was a gnarled boat ride out !! I think next year I am gonna go get a Canadian license so when we fish out of neah bay we can bomb over and fish Canada everyday for them !! I refuse to buy fish, I just flat won't do it but I would be seriously tempted to buy some black cod, damn fine eatn, damn fine !!
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2017, 10:15:52 PM »
My buddy brought over 5lbs of black cod "tips", from Alaska. We marinaded them in yoshidas and threw em on the Traeger. That is one of the absolute best things I have ever put in my mouth. 3 of us destroyed all of it and wanted more.

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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2017, 11:39:26 PM »
I usually think of anything but halibut as a garbage fish, but I think I need to try some black cod.
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2017, 08:29:18 AM »
I usually think of anything but halibut as a garbage fish, but I think I need to try some black cod.

I normally think of halibut, other than cheeks, as about my last choice.  I prefer tuna, true cod, salmon, black cod, cabezon, ling cod, rockfish, sole and a whole host of others over halibut.  Cheeks are another story though.   

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2017, 04:30:45 PM »
I usually think of anything but halibut as a garbage fish, but I think I need to try some black cod.

I normally think of halibut, other than cheeks, as about my last choice.  I prefer tuna, true cod, salmon, black cod, cabezon, ling cod, rockfish, sole and a whole host of others over halibut.  Cheeks are another story though.

That's pretty much what I consider garbage fish.
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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2017, 07:07:18 PM »
Ya' know it isn't bad either poached or steamed too and with rice it is so quick and easy to make dinner fit for a king that way. 

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2017, 01:52:57 PM »
Yep, Black cod is one of the best fish to eat. Well known in good restaurants in the PNW. Sablefish is another common name.

When it comes to cooking or taste, you could compare it to halibut or ling cod. I'd describe halibut as firm and dense with large flaking flesh and ling cod would be a lighter, smaller flaking flesh.

As for the black cod meat, it is amazing. Very light flesh with a lot of omega fats. It has an exquisite mouth feel.

If you have some black cod to cook, don't f#ck it up by doing to much. Poach, sear or sous vide it and keep it simple. You can thank me later.


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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2017, 01:55:32 PM »
The fish just went on the grill. I'm in WA D.C. And will be serving 600 plates of blackcod and marbled chinook salmon tonight. I'll post some when it's finished cooking.

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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2017, 02:02:53 PM »
Please do and good luck !! Looks incredible !!
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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2017, 02:18:32 PM »
Please do and good luck !! Looks incredible !!
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2017, 02:50:17 PM »
You could have just used my back yard in Kennewick instead of going all the way to DC. My mouth is watering waiting for the final pic's.

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« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2017, 06:09:11 PM »
Busy busy, I just finished cooking. Also ran into this guy, he said our chinook collars were the best food he had all night.

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« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2017, 06:16:50 AM »
Haha, that's cool, isn't that that Keith coburn fella from deadliest catch? Did you get lots of people loving the cod ?
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« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2017, 07:34:02 PM »
Haha, that's cool, isn't that that Keith coburn fella from deadliest catch? Did you get lots of people loving the cod ?

Yes that is Keith Coburn he runs the Wizard. The blackcod is super popular at this event, we have tons of people telling us they wish they could find it in the stores.

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« Reply #42 on: June 16, 2017, 09:21:30 AM »
Haha, that's cool, isn't that that Keith coburn fella from deadliest catch? Did you get lots of people loving the cod ?

Yes that is Keith Coburn he runs the Wizard. The blackcod is super popular at this event, we have tons of people telling us they wish they could find it in the stores.

My buddy used to bring back burlap bags full of blackcod when he was a captain for Western Pioneer.   

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Re: Black cod !!
« Reply #43 on: June 16, 2017, 08:13:44 PM »

I got hooked on black cod 5 years ago when i tried it at this DC restaurant while on a business trip

https://www.yelp.com/biz/rasika-washington


amazing texture and flavor



Yep, Black cod is one of the best fish to eat. Well known in good restaurants in the PNW. Sablefish is another common name.

When it comes to cooking or taste, you could compare it to halibut or ling cod. I'd describe halibut as firm and dense with large flaking flesh and ling cod would be a lighter, smaller flaking flesh.

As for the black cod meat, it is amazing. Very light flesh with a lot of omega fats. It has an exquisite mouth feel.

If you have some black cod to cook, don't f#ck it up by doing to much. Poach, sear or sous vide it and keep it simple. You can thank me later.


Also, yes, I said exquisite mouth feel just to sound ridiculous. Doesn't mean it's not true though.

 


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