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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2009, 02:12:38 PM »
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In your case I wouldn't feel bad, he had his chance.  Did I mention the time this same guy and I had a four day elk hunt planned?  I killed a bull on the second day and he went home early, leaving me to pack it out alone, 3+ miles.   The more I think about it, the clearer it is, I'm a dumb a$$. :bash:
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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2009, 02:34:28 PM »
I have a good friend I hunted Coyote with in AZ and Moose with in AK. He's twice my age and has killed more big game than I've seen in any context, and taken more party trips than I've taken trips of any kind!

When I was hunting with him in AZ for Coyote, he turned to me and said, "I think it's a nice idea to take turns shooting and all that, but if one or the other of us has a clear, high percentage shot, we TAKE it."

End of discussion.

It makes sense to me, and in most cases, you as a pair or group are going to get more game that way. You'll hunt different, and - - for instance, on a calling stand - - you'll cover more countryside. Shoot-em-dead's Mule Deer and Spokane-slayer's Turkey are prime examples.

Clear high percentage shot? Think about the shot you're taking, not who's turn it is to take it! Most good hunting partners are gonna be slapping you on the back, not cussing under their breath.
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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2009, 02:49:43 PM »
I think that a lot of us that spend time in the woods with friends or family have experienced this before.

About 10 years ago my brother and I found ourselves sitting at the base of a rock outcropping waiting for the sun to rise. We had talked about this scenario and agreed that "If the buck is on the right side he takes the shot, if it's on the left it's mine."

Well, wouldn't you know it, about 1/2 hr into shooting light a nice 3x4 emerged from the timber and walked right into my brother's side of the "rock." Of course, I got so excited that I completely forgot about the agreement, threw my .270 to my shoulder, and rocked the buck right through the vitals! My brother had already thrown his rifle up thinking that I was giving him the shot and fired a split second after I did. Because the buck kicked hard when I hit him my brother hit it a little low and back of the kill zone.

I felt like a complete ass afterward for taking the shot but my brother wasn't the least bit upset. In fact, he still teases me to this day about that hunt. I did however give him the backstrap and tenderloin because I felt bad about it and...he certainly didn't complain one bit!

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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2009, 05:46:07 PM »
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Good story.  The fact you felt bad afterward shows you know you did the wrong thing, and the fact your brother still teases you about it shows he knows how bad you feel and loves to twist the knife whenever he can.  That's what brothers do.
 
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When I go coyote hunting I don't care who shoots as long as the dog dies.  Calling in game is totally different from spot and stalk situations as we had literally all day to wait for the shot.  Called in game is there and then its gone.  This bull wasn't going to leave without his cows and they were all bedded so there was no need to rush unless, of course, you're trying to beat your hunting buddy to the shot.  Both my ex-partner and his dad have mounted trophies on their walls that I spotted and let them shoot, so cussing aside, I think I was a pretty good hunting partner.
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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2009, 06:48:54 PM »
Don't get me wrong, I think you were too. Some guys see that you're a giver... and they go ahead and taketaketaketake... It's a bummer.
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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2009, 09:36:23 AM »
I have been taking Kids hunting with me for 25 years now so I have gotten used to letting them shoot first. This is the Story of the Buck of Shame!. 3 Years ago in Idaho I was sitting with my youngest Son (13) and spotted the biggest White Tail buck that I had ever seen during Hunting season. The Buck was about 600 yards away and chasing a Doe. While we were watching it my Brother, older son and nephew came sneaking up, Well my brother ask whats up so I told him. Just then the doe starts running right towards us with the buck in hot pursuit, My Brother and Nephew already had shot Bucks so I told my Boys to get ready to shoot. The buck turns broadside at about 150 yards and stops and stands there with that dumb ass I don't know were I'm at look on his face, I'm saying Shoot! Shoot!, well the youngest boy shoots and closes his eyes on the first shot like always. The Buck just stands there. Then Boom down he goes, The shot didn't sound right so I turn to my nephew and ask who shot, he says Uncle (no name here hes suffered enough) Turns out he had 2 tags. All I could say was that was Chicken Poop If I thought you were going to shoot, I would have Shot it myself. I ask the Boys why they didn't Shoot and they both said they were waiting for the other one to shoot. It was a Tall 5x5 with kickers that made him a 8x8, He scored 164 4/8. I will try to get a Picture of the mount and post it It's beutiful,

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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2009, 08:02:07 PM »
That's an awkward one, I suppose I would feel a little confused at first and maybe a littel upset, but most I hunt with it's an unspoken rule that the spotter or who ever is in the lead gets the shot. I think it's good to communicate it at first and as for Shoot-em's post  if i were to miss the first shot I would assume my partner is ready to shoot second. In fact in my experience with that cost my Dad and I  a 6X4 elk once. I took a shot and hit him but never followed up because I knew Dad would shoot at anytime, well his gun malfunctioned and never did fire so the elk ran down to another bunch of A-holes that wouldn't agree in sharing even though my first bullet took out the entire left lung. Hindsight's 20/20 ain't it.
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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2009, 08:32:19 PM »

  Both my ex-partner and his dad have mounted trophies on their walls that I spotted and let them shoot, so cussing aside, I think I was a pretty good hunting partner.
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Ricochet, you sound like you would make a good guide!  Sometimes it's hard to tell who spotted it first and who should get the first shot.  I think if you clearly spotted, it's your shot.  My brother and I have always been competitive so those rules are different.  If my buddy spotted and stalked, the first shot, second shot-whatever are his.  I don't hunt archery or ML so there are probably different rules.

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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2009, 08:36:51 PM »
The first year I started hunting with my Cousin and his buddies, Roosevelt Elk.  I caught a bull crossing the power lines.  My cousin was with me, and I pointed out the Bull to him.  Because of the brush behind him, I couldn't tell if it was 3 pt or better, and I asked if it was legal as I couldn't tell.  He said yes, but I still couldn't tell. He shot and missed.  I followed with a shot on the run and missed.  About this time the other guys showed up, and we all tracked the herd into the timber.  We split up following different sets of tracks into the timber, and one of my buddies shot the Bull 10 minutes later.  Small Rag Horn that was celebrated for a couple of days, but I always look back on that knowing that he gave me first shot, but I deferred and the party still ended up successful.

Same situation happened a couple of years later with another buddy in Montana in front of another rag horn.  I spotted them, by the time we could get situated for a shot, and they were on the run and I couldn't find the bull.  I told him to shot and we ended up successful.

The next year, I had laser corrective surgery.  Weird - I don't have trouble finding animals in the scope anymore.

I still hunt with both of these guys to this day, and I appreciate this topic for reminding me why it still works. 


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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2009, 08:53:06 PM »
My younger brother who is still in high school isnt the best hunter around.  If we get on a buck I always wait for him to shoot and then when he misses a few times Ill take a shot.  If its a swomper its a different story its usually a dog fight between me and my dad to get the first shot. ;)
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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2009, 11:29:17 PM »
I was about 17, hunting the Methow, and my dad shot a nice 4x4, breaking his shoulder. The buck was on the spine of a finger ridge, and dropped over the other side. My brother and I saw the whole thing and hustled to cut him off. As we came around a point, we hear shooting up ahead. When we get there, this guy says "Is that your dad up there that shot that 4 point?" We said yes, and he says "well I shot both hindquarters out of it, it's ruined now. Sorry. One of you should probably put it down for your dad." (what an assbag) My brother and I both get into shooting position (the deer is about 200yds.), as I'm pulling the slack out of the trigger, something blocks my scope. I look up and my cousin ran right in front of me and is on dead sprint towards the buck! While he's running, he's shooting at the deer with his scoped rifle! He unloads his rifle, never touching a hair on that deer, and starts reloading as he runs. He ran right up to the buck, that has since toppled over, and shoots it in the head, point blanc, breaking the skull plate, causing the antlers to fold together. By the time we all get down there, he already has his tag on it and has it half gutted. My dad, brother and I turned around and walked back to camp, leaving my cousin and his dad, to pack the deer out. What a waste, one shoulder is broken, both hams shot, and the beautiful 4x4 rack is ruined. I never hunted with him again and never will.
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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2009, 05:47:47 PM »
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A good hunting partner is hard to find.  My partner and I argue about who should be the shooter...in the opposite meaning of what you might think.  We love the hunt and always want the other guy to be the shooter.  To us, the shared memory is far more meaningful than who released the arrow.  Besides, we are usually calling elk in, so it's team affair regardless.
  I always tell whoever I am with, "if you get a shot, TAKE IT!" I also hunt for the experience and dint think petty rivalry's belong out in the woods. You might only get one chance, dint waste it thinking about excuses about why you didn't try.
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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2009, 05:58:19 PM »
I like to get other people in position to shoot a nice animal.  That being said, I will only wait so long.  I took a guy out as a favor to a lady friend.  He had hunted before, but had no one to go with.  I show him a nice 4x4 blacktail at about 180-200 yards away.  He missed so bad 3 times, the buck never even flinched, (and he had a dead rest).  I said, since you can not seem to hit him, mind if I shoot?  He agreed.  One shot, one dead deer.  When we got up to it, and he saw how big the deer was, he goes, so, where do I get my horns mounted...  ummmmmmmm say what?  Last time he went anywhere with me....hunting or otherwise.

In my group of 4 hunters, who sees it first, gets first shot.  After that, it is fair game, if the animal is not down.
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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2009, 04:29:56 AM »
I wouldn't trade a good friend for a trophy on the wall.

I only have one buddy that I have consistently hunted with year after year. He is half a generation older than me, has four kids, and runs a business.  The week that we get to go hunt is the onlyi chance he gets so I let him take the first shot on anything we come across. I'll take the followup if he misses but if we encounter 2 or 3 deer in a day, I let him shoot first each time.  I can tell it flatters him and to me the relationship that it builds is more important to me than possibly getting that trophy buck. 

I'll also be hunting another state this fall with a friend I made this past year.  He introduced me to this area we're gonna hunt, and when scouting one day we found a monster mule deer.  If we come up on it together, even if I see it first, I'm going to let him take the first, and possibly the second shot (depending on the situation, how I feel, etc).  Just wouldn't be right when he introduced me to the area and due to the nature of our friendship.  I'm not going to be 'that guy' that some of your horror stories have mentioned.

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Re: Question: Who takes the shot?
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2009, 07:48:17 AM »
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I in that case would not feel bad, like said he had his shot, secondly you seperated both knowing that you were going after the same animal, congrats to you for being able to get in that close and take the shot.


So I have only done one thing bad to my hunting partner (WIFE) We were hunting moose in Alaska, I called in a 57 incher. It came straight on at us at about 90 yards, then went broadside in to some trees. I grabbed her we ran over to the side where it would come out. When it came out of the trees I asked her can you see it? She said I can see the rack, with her saying that I pulled up and dumped it where it stood. I turned around to get my high five and there was this look that I hope to never see again in my life. I then asked the even more stupid question something to the effect of what the heck is wrong with you?? That is when she started whooping and hollering saying that I shot her moose out from under her. The only thing I could say was next time you have a shot say you do and not just say I can see the rack. Was not a good day for me!!!!!
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