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DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« on: February 24, 2009, 02:17:37 PM »

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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 02:28:51 PM »
Thanks for posting the link!!
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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 03:17:07 PM »
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I tell you what this just makes my blood boil.  If you folks read the comments and the Departments response and it doesn't scare the heck out of you and make you madder then a hornets nest I'd like to know why?

Comment:
The Department should not be disallowing coyote
hunting unless there is a biologicaljustification for
doing so. Non-biological public opinion should not
drive the Department to restrict hunting. Science and '
species sustainment should be the primary if not sole
basis for any amendment to the DFW regulations. No
game or resource use will long stand when subjected to
general public opinion.

Response from WDFW:
The Department is recommending making it unlawful to
hunt coyotes with the use of dogs. The
recommendation is based on input from the public via
the Washington State legislature. Even though the
recommendation is not based on the biological status of
coyotes, the Department is bring this issue before the
commission due to our desire to address social issues
with hunting during the Commission process rather than
lesislative Process.

Comment:

Under coyote hunting with dogs needs to be clarihed in
the regulations. Proposed says no hunting coyotes with
dogs. If this is adopted does it mean just running dogs
that kill coyotes? Some people me included have a dog
with me when I am calling coyotes to decoy or take the
coyotes attention away from me. They are not to kill the
coyote thats my job.

Respone from WDFW:

Hunting includes any use of dogs during your hunting
activity; including decoying.
Fred Moyer

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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 03:21:53 PM »
I saw that too machias...what a bunch of *censored*e

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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 04:26:34 PM »
If your out hunting birds with your lab and bust a coyote, your illegally hunting coyotes with dogs.  I want know which MORON is getting kickbacks from HSUS, because they just saved these pukes thousands of dollars and man hours by advancing their agenda for them without them even having to lift a finger.  I hope everyone who is happy about keeping bear hunting on public land open in Aug will now divert their efforts to this.  I do not coyote hunt with dogs, but the department should not be advancing the HSUS's agenda for them.  They should be managing wildlife based on sound scientific management principles and stay out of the political spectrum.
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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 04:28:14 PM »
They have proved over and over again that they don't care about sound management. :twocents:
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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 04:32:52 PM »
"The Department is recommending making it unlawful to
hunt coyotes with the use of dogs"

I dont understand why they care.......there is no good reason to eliminate the use of dogs............its crap.  I agree with Machias......this reeks of HSUS.

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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 04:40:18 PM »
I saw that today and was extremly unhappy. You can't tell me that only two people sent in comments yet they only used two? Look how many they used under deer and elk.

Yes, I agree that they don't care what the hunters say. Actually it is very similar to what InsideWDFW posted about the August/Public Lands issue. That it is pressure from the Capitol that is pushing the issue.




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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 04:43:39 PM »
Im pretty sick of having fight with them for every little thing.............its getting really old :beatdeadhorse:
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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 08:27:45 PM »
 DFW stated for a couple of items like this one that the opposition came through the legislature, not public scoping. I think it would be prudent for that legislator to both identify themselves and explain their position. These shots out of the dark get old. The State's position on managing coyote's has always been hand's off, leading to increasing incident's such as in Seattle last year. If these uneducated people get what they are asking for, it will only contribute to area's of Washington ending up like SoCal where Coyote's brazenly attack people and have even caused fatalities, they need a fear of man by whatever means necessary, that has been proven over and over.

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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2009, 12:10:17 PM »
DFW stated for a couple of items like this one that the opposition came through the legislature, not public scoping. I think it would be prudent for that legislator to both identify themselves and explain their position. These shots out of the dark get old. The State's position on managing coyote's has always been hand's off, leading to increasing incident's such as in Seattle last year. If these uneducated people get what they are asking for, it will only contribute to area's of Washington ending up like SoCal where Coyote's brazenly attack people and have even caused fatalities, they need a fear of man by whatever means necessary, that has been proven over and over.

Thanks Dmanmastertraker -he's right this one was a legislative idea.  The conversation basically went "Either you guys put this in, or I will push it through legislature... and you probably won't like what's attached."

Life would be simple if all we had to do was put up with you cranky hunters  :).
Disclaimer:  These are not the views of the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife.  These are the thoughts of one person written off the clock who formally worked for WDFW.

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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2009, 12:27:12 PM »
Mine made it in there

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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2009, 12:32:37 PM »
DFW stated for a couple of items like this one that the opposition came through the legislature, not public scoping. I think it would be prudent for that legislator to both identify themselves and explain their position. These shots out of the dark get old. The State's position on managing coyote's has always been hand's off, leading to increasing incident's such as in Seattle last year. If these uneducated people get what they are asking for, it will only contribute to area's of Washington ending up like SoCal where Coyote's brazenly attack people and have even caused fatalities, they need a fear of man by whatever means necessary, that has been proven over and over.

Thanks Dmanmastertraker -he's right this one was a legislative idea.  The conversation basically went "Either you guys put this in, or I will push it through legislature... and you probably won't like what's attached."

Life would be simple if all we had to do was put up with you cranky hunters  :).

What a bunch of crap.  I'd really don't care if a legislator called up and threatened to shut the fricken state down, the DEPARTMENT should be managing wildlife NOT scoring political points with HSUS.  Which legislator was it, I want to know!  This makes me so damn mad I can't see straight!   :violent1:  What could they have attached that would be worse then banning it outright?  What about making the legislator accountable to the people.  You help them circumvent the process.

You think cranky hunters is no big deal huh?
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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2009, 12:52:29 PM »
Inside, so can you out the legislator?

 :fishin: :stirthepot:
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Whatta ya mean I can't have one of each?

What we have here is...Washington Department of NO Fish and WATCHABLE Wildlife.
 
WDFW is going farther and farther backwards....we need FISH AND GAME back!

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Re: DFW Revised 2009-11 Proposals are up
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2009, 12:53:33 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/seasonsetting/index.htm#recommendations

Mine were hightly critical....dont see THEM IN THERE.


 My comments made it in, did yours?
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Whatta ya mean I can't have one of each?

What we have here is...Washington Department of NO Fish and WATCHABLE Wildlife.
 
WDFW is going farther and farther backwards....we need FISH AND GAME back!

 


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