White river gmu closed

[Blacktail Sniper]

I can't believe they could legally close an entire GMU, especially one with private land. I can believe they would close public areas like national forests, and that forest companies could close their lands.

The question is, are they (WDFW) saying the GMU is closed to access or closed to hunting? 

Clearly they cannot dictate who can be on someone else's property, but pretty sure they can close an area to hunting....

[Bob33]

My guess is that it is linguistics, the vast majority, if not all, public access is closed so they are giving all the points back rather than calling everyone and seeing where they were planning on hunting or letting guys head over there without checking and getting pissed.

[Milkman]

W.R. / Enamclaw Hancock has been closed since 7/13. They sent out an email... This isn't anything new to permit holders.

[jackelope]

W.R. / Enamclaw Hancock has been closed since 7/13. They sent out an email... This isn't anything new to permit holders.

Technically it closed 7/20 according to their website.

[Milkman]

Technically it closed 7/20 according to their website.

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You are correct. My email was dated 7/13. They gave us a week notice. How nice

[CarbonHunter]

There's still plenty of ground open in the 653, same with the 336,346 area. Especially considering how few of tag holders there is for each permit. The wdfw is just giving into all the people who were calling and complaining.

[G.R.K]

https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd558215.pdf

[CarbonHunter]

https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd558215.pdf

You know you can access the white river unit from the wilkeson side right?  And there's trails that cross the Clearwater wilderness and will drop you into the area behind the closure without crossing Hancock land, right?

[Bob33]

I think some of the people giving up their permits are going to be irritated when they realize that some of the GMU was accessible.

[CarbonHunter]

I think a lot of people who didn't draw are going to be irritated that they have to once again be delayed from possibly drawing a permit due to the people who drew this year and gave their permit back to re-enter next year with all their points again; when they could of hunted the tag this year.

The fact is there is not one single unit in this state that is 100% inaccessible, yes some are mostly inaccessible but they can still be hunted and they still have elk.

[Stein]

Doesn't matter, if they re-enter the draw your odds don't go down unless you carry three or four significant digits right of the decimal.


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[CarbonHunter]

Doesn't matter, if they re-enter the draw your odds don't go down unless you carry three or four significant digits right of the decimal.


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You lost me stein. The minimum is one digit to the left of the decimal as I understand the system.

If 50 people turn their permits back in and they average 10 points a piece, that's 5,000 applications back in the pool next year as opposed to 50 applications if they kept their permits. You don't feel that reduces your odds next year?

[Elkcollector82]

Seems to me anyone with ten or more points. Doesn't have any better chance then the guy with 4.    see and hear about guys with 19 points not drawing but a guy with 5 does. Luck of the draw I guess. 

[trophyhunt]

With the odds being what they are, it's all luck.

[Bullkllr]

Seems to me anyone with ten or more points. Doesn't have any better chance then the guy with 4.    see and hear about guys with 19 points not drawing but a guy with 5 does. Luck of the draw I guess. 

Individual odds with 10 are better; there are just more guys with 4 putting in. As stated, luck rules.