I won't be buying a MS Deer permit. I almost did one year then ended up filling my archery tag opening weekend. Not bragging.. just I know where I can find deer and I am looking to fill the freezer so antlers don't matter to me. First legal good sized deer gets an arrow. If I don't get one in the woods I can do to my families property in Onalaska and they ALWAYS have deer running around. If I don't get a deer during early or later archery ohh well. I do however, really really want the MS Elk permit!