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2 wolves shot NE Washington
« on: December 09, 2017, 11:21:52 PM »
http://www.krem.com/tech/two-wolves-shot-dead-in-eastern-washington/498291888

Two wolves in Eastern Washington were killed in November, likely the victims of poaching.

The wolves were both females. At least one was killed in Stevens County.

According to state officials, the wolves were collared by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife. The collar on one of them had stopped working and wildlife officers checked the last known coordinate. They found the wolf shot dead.

“This is beyond sad and disappointing. We work so hard on a fair wolf recovery process that includes everyone so that there's local acceptance. So many interests have put so much into this effort. But one bad apple can do so much damage. It's an unjust irony that the term 'lone wolf' is applied to mass shooters,” said Conservation Northwest Executive Director Mitch Friedman.  :puke:


The wolves are members of the Smackout and Dirty Shirt packs.

WDFW currently has no leads for suspects. Conservation Northwest is also offering a $10,000 reward for information about the killings.
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2017, 11:30:38 PM »
I wonder how many wolves get illegally shot each year that aren't found......
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2017, 11:44:02 PM »
We all knew this would happen when they forced such a crapola wolf plan on us 


Mitch is referring to the "public acceptance" portion of the plan, it never had a chance to be accepted by the public - ever.
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2017, 11:53:24 PM »
Yeah, that was an interesting perspective he expressed in the quote.   
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2017, 12:28:57 AM »
I wonder how many wolves get illegally shot each year that aren't found......

Hopefully lots

If you think any good will come out of this for hunters, you're crazy.  For starters, if it was a collared wolf, any data that might have been gained is lost. They won't be able to track the pack if none of the other wolves are collared.  Second, this act will paint all hunters in a bad light and people who would otherwise support hunters will turn against us. At this point, we need all the friends we can get. Third, it will delay any delisting possibility. Fourth, it may result in more restrictions on hunters.
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2017, 12:32:04 AM »
I wonder how many wolves get illegally shot each year that aren't found......

Hopefully lots

If you think any good will come out of this for hunters, you're crazy.  For starters, if it was a collared wolf, any data that might have been gained is lost. They won't be able to track the pack if none of the other wolves are collared.  Second, this act will paint all hunters in a bad light and people who would otherwise support hunters will turn against us. At this point, we need all the friends we can get. Third, it will delay any delisting possibility. Fourth, it may result in more restrictions on hunters.

How do they know it was illegal? Aren't the natives allowed to hunt them now?

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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2017, 06:07:28 AM »
I wonder how many wolves get illegally shot each year that aren't found......

Hopefully lots

If you think any good will come out of this for hunters, you're crazy.  For starters, if it was a collared wolf, any data that might have been gained is lost. They won't be able to track the pack if none of the other wolves are collared.  Second, this act will paint all hunters in a bad light and people who would otherwise support hunters will turn against us. At this point, we need all the friends we can get. Third, it will delay any delisting possibility. Fourth, it may result in more restrictions on hunters.
You actually think they plan on delisting? :chuckle:

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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2017, 06:30:42 AM »
 :yeah: Only after they establish recognized packs in King County and start eating all of they yuppies pets or worse will conversations of delisting begin. Unfortunately we are not one of the western states that actually had a plan for managing wolves. My thought is thousands of wolves will be "illegally" killed because WDFW had a piss poor plan for re-establishing wolves, so why should they try and manage them any differently now? It's unfortunate that most of the stories surrounding wolves are put out there by the wolf supporters and no one actually knows the circumstances around why these wolves were killed. The perception from the wolf lovers is they were illegally killed, but this will continue to happen until they are delisted. :twocents:
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2017, 06:33:57 AM »
I wonder how many wolves get illegally shot each year that aren't found......
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2017, 06:50:20 AM »
Sitka Blacktail, why do you assume this has anything to do with hunters? I lived and worked around wolves for a few years and there are many excellent reasons to kill every one you see other than protecting deer, elk and moose. Most states had bounties on them when I was young because of the damage they do to the economic interests and safety of people and their property. These insane policies are made by arrogant urban liberals who have never logged, worked on ranches, mined or have done any other type of real work around these large predators that hunt in packs. The most aggravating aspect of it is that many of these people get there paychecks from the tax money taken from hard working Americans who are adversely affected by these policies.

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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2017, 06:51:53 AM »
Why do guys on here always think it's a " hunter " and it's going to give said hunters a black eye ? There are others who own guns and do thrill killings to MAKE the hunters look bad. Just sayin'......... They are not hunters in my eyes.
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2017, 08:03:52 AM »
Why do guys on here always think it's a " hunter " and it's going to give said hunters a black eye ? There are others who own guns and do thrill killings to MAKE the hunters look bad. Just sayin'......... They are not hunters in my eyes.
Because most of the time it is.

The vast majority of poaching is done by people who have had licenses in the past. Very rarely is it some dude with a gun and he's never had a hunting license.

Does it make hunters look bad? Absolutely! The public sees poaching as a direct result of "bad" hunters. And people on here can say well who cares about the general public, well when it makes the news, you better care about the general public.

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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2017, 08:04:37 AM »
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And when did a self avowed  eco terrorist like Mitch Friedman , who has zero background in wildlife management, suddenly become an expert on wolves?

Putting spikes in publically owned trees for 20 years,  that injured loggers and destroyed trees,  suddenly makes you an instant wildlife management expert? Why does the state even listen to this whacko?

Only in looney Washington


Sitka Blacktail, why do you assume this has anything to do with hunters? I lived and worked around wolves for a few years and there are many excellent reasons to kill every one you see other than protecting deer, elk and moose. Most states had bounties on them when I was young because of the damage they do to the economic interests and safety of people and their property. These insane policies are made by arrogant urban liberals who have never logged, worked on ranches, mined or have done any other type of real work around these large predators that hunt in packs. The most aggravating aspect of it is that many of these people get there paychecks from the tax money taken from hard working Americans who are adversely affected by these policies.

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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2017, 08:06:44 AM »

When the indians shoot wolves, does that make them look bad too? :dunno:

Does Mitch the eco terrorist come out in the press and condemn them too? :chuckle:

Why do guys on here always think it's a " hunter " and it's going to give said hunters a black eye ? There are others who own guns and do thrill killings to MAKE the hunters look bad. Just sayin'......... They are not hunters in my eyes.
Because most of the time it is.

The vast majority of poaching is done by people who have had licenses in the past. Very rarely is it some dude with a gun and he's never had a hunting license.

Does it make hunters look bad? Absolutely! The public sees poaching as a direct result of "bad" hunters. And people on here can say well who cares about the general public, well when it makes the news, you better care about the general public.

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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2017, 08:08:17 AM »
Why do guys on here always think it's a " hunter " and it's going to give said hunters a black eye ? There are others who own guns and do thrill killings to MAKE the hunters look bad. Just sayin'......... They are not hunters in my eyes.
Because most of the time it is.

The vast majority of poaching is done by people who have had licenses in the past. Very rarely is it some dude with a gun and he's never had a hunting license.

Does it make hunters look bad? Absolutely! The public sees poaching as a direct result of "bad" hunters. And people on here can say well who cares about the general public, well when it makes the news, you better care about the general public.
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2017, 08:17:35 AM »
The article makes no mention of the circumstances around the wolves being killed, opening it up for speculation.

Seems like a lot of questions could be asked before jumping to any conclusions:
How does WDFW even know the wolves were shot?
Were they collared?
Were they recovered? Autopsied?
Where were they found? Farm area? Forest?
Did you read the article?

According to state officials, the wolves were collared by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife. The collar on one of them had stopped working and wildlife officers checked the last known coordinate. They found the wolf shot dead.

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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2017, 08:50:21 AM »
The article makes no mention of the circumstances around the wolves being killed, opening it up for speculation.

Seems like a lot of questions could be asked before jumping to any conclusions:
How does WDFW even know the wolves were shot?
Were they collared?
Were they recovered? Autopsied?
Where were they found? Farm area? Forest?
Did you read the article?


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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2017, 09:10:46 AM »
It's only speculation as to what type of person shot these wolf's.
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2017, 09:11:21 AM »
Will WDFW set up some memorials?  Maybe change their webpage and lower some flags?

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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2017, 09:12:31 AM »
Why all the talk about the collared one, and none on the other one. :dunno:
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2017, 09:12:55 AM »

When the indians shoot wolves, does that make them look bad too? :dunno:

Does Mitch the eco terrorist come out in the press and condemn them too? :chuckle:

Why do guys on here always think it's a " hunter " and it's going to give said hunters a black eye ? There are others who own guns and do thrill killings to MAKE the hunters look bad. Just sayin'......... They are not hunters in my eyes.
Because most of the time it is.

The vast majority of poaching is done by people who have had licenses in the past. Very rarely is it some dude with a gun and he's never had a hunting license.

Does it make hunters look bad? Absolutely! The public sees poaching as a direct result of "bad" hunters. And people on here can say well who cares about the general public, well when it makes the news, you better care about the general public.




Of course not. It doesn't fit Mitch's narrative..
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2017, 09:28:30 AM »
Why do guys on here always think it's a " hunter " and it's going to give said hunters a black eye ? There are others who own guns and do thrill killings to MAKE the hunters look bad. Just sayin'......... They are not hunters in my eyes.
Because most of the time it is.

The vast majority of poaching is done by people who have had licenses in the past. Very rarely is it some dude with a gun and he's never had a hunting license.

Does it make hunters look bad? Absolutely! The public sees poaching as a direct result of "bad" hunters. And people on here can say well who cares about the general public, well when it makes the news, you better care about the general public.




I disagree. Most likely could of been a rancher protecting his livelihood or a wolf hater of some sort. Having a hunting license, to me, has nothing to do with it. The public only sees what the mainstream media lies about.
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2017, 09:34:25 AM »
Feel hypnotized or brainwashed yet......   watch my watch closely

.....wolves are nice
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.....wolves are nice
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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2017, 09:39:19 AM »
Feel hypnotized or brainwashed yet......   watch my watch closely

.....wolves are nice
.....wolves don’t hurt deer
.....wolves are nice
.....wolves are good for everyone
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.....wolves are nice

Anyone else notice the surge of articles in the news



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Re: 2 wolves shot NE Washington
« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2017, 09:54:47 AM »
Pictures or it didn't happen....


Or the true story...wolf found dead when collared moose showed inactive. Wolf found dead next to partially eaten moose carcass. Cause of death, appears wolf choked on moose collar.

 

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