Washington House committee OKs bill to move wolves

[Special T]

I think folks need to put this into perspective. Joel Kretz has been putting this forth for a few years. The kikelyhood of this happening is low.

Play what If after they have been moved... do you think the state will rush to open a hunting season on wolves in the NE?  How long  do you the lawsuits will last? Do you think the department will turn a new leaf and become our bestest buddies and put sportsmen interests first?

Here is a fact. 3 more breading pairs anywhere in the state for 3 years, or 2 in the S Cascades.  If the department really wanted to they could have found 3 more in the N cascades. Even if they do it this spring we have to wait 3 years.

Importing wolves on a hope and a prayer is bad strategy. I guarantee you that those promoting predators are using strategy.

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[bearpaw]

You guys better all start calling your REPS and SENATORS and tell them you don't want wolves! My legislator is doing his job, the only way we can get delisted in the NE is for western WA to have wolves. Maybe if enough of you complain to your legislators that you don't want wolves your legislators will pass something so we can manage wolves in Northeast WA.

Make the calls or get the wolves!

[hunter399]

 

[KFhunter]

Seattle is the last place they will go. All the cougar management areas around the Greater Seattle area have no quotas. That ought to tell you something about how the Department views predators around Seattle.

To me, pretty much everything on that side of the mountain is Seattle     Pretty common thought with the folks out here.  I know better, but it's stuck.

[Boss .300 winmag]

You guys better all start calling your REPS and SENATORS and tell them you don't want wolves! My legislator is doing his job, the only way we can get delisted in the NE is for western WA to have wolves. Maybe if enough of you complain to your legislators that you don't want wolves your legislators will pass something so we can manage wolves in Northeast WA.

Make the calls or get the wolves!

We already have them, 3-4 years I figure 5-6 packs on this side from Canadian border south to Seattle area.

The peninsula is going to take a lot longer. 

[bearpaw]

You guys better all start calling your REPS and SENATORS and tell them you don't want wolves! My legislator is doing his job, the only way we can get delisted in the NE is for western WA to have wolves. Maybe if enough of you complain to your legislators that you don't want wolves your legislators will pass something so we can manage wolves in Northeast WA.

Make the calls or get the wolves!

We already have them, 3-4 years I figure 5-6 packs on this side from Canadian border south to Seattle area.

The peninsula is going to take a lot longer. 

It's been a while since I viewed the wolf plan but I have read the entire plan in the past and if I remember correctly we need at least three packs that produce surviving pups three years in a row in each area of the state, the westside is one area, I could be wrong but don't remember that there was a distinction that the Peninsula had to have wolves if the westside had three breeding packs for three consecutive years.

[Boss .300 winmag]

You guys better all start calling your REPS and SENATORS and tell them you don't want wolves! My legislator is doing his job, the only way we can get delisted in the NE is for western WA to have wolves. Maybe if enough of you complain to your legislators that you don't want wolves your legislators will pass something so we can manage wolves in Northeast WA.

Make the calls or get the wolves!

We already have them, 3-4 years I figure 5-6 packs on this side from Canadian border south to Seattle area.

The peninsula is going to take a lot longer. 

It's been a while since I viewed the wolf plan but I have read the entire plan in the past and if I remember correctly we need at least three packs that produce surviving pups three years in a row in each area of the state, the westside is one area, I could be wrong but don't remember that there was a distinction that the Peninsula had to have wolves if the westside had three breeding packs for three consecutive years.

That’s correct.

I  bet the the numbers explode once they get to the Olympic National Park, lots to eat there.

[Special T]

If you think documenting wolves on the relatively open east side is hard.... how do you think its gonna happen on tye wey side where it is THICK?

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[bearpaw]

If you think documenting wolves on the relatively open east side is hard.... how do you think its gonna happen on tye wey side where it is THICK?

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They'll trap them.

[Tbar]

You guys better all start calling your REPS and SENATORS and tell them you don't want wolves! My legislator is doing his job, the only way we can get delisted in the NE is for western WA to have wolves. Maybe if enough of you complain to your legislators that you don't want wolves your legislators will pass something so we can manage wolves in Northeast WA.

Make the calls or get the wolves!

Kretz did an excellent job representing the wolf lovers statewide.  They are having celebratory drinks while we continue to argue.  Symbolic bill that when it passes will set management statewide back decades. Fixing wrongs with wrongs has never been a model of success.  This will eliminate the need to apply pressure where they are federally delisted, well because this is what the northeast (kretz) as well as the farm bureau asked for.  Sad state of affairs and the non consumptive wolf advocates win! (Oh wait, Mitch is a hunter)

[bearpaw]

You guys better all start calling your REPS and SENATORS and tell them you don't want wolves! My legislator is doing his job, the only way we can get delisted in the NE is for western WA to have wolves. Maybe if enough of you complain to your legislators that you don't want wolves your legislators will pass something so we can manage wolves in Northeast WA.

Make the calls or get the wolves!

Kretz did an excellent job representing the wolf lovers statewide.  They are having celebratory drinks while we continue to argue.  Symbolic bill that when it passes will set management statewide back decades. Fixing wrongs with wrongs has never been a model of success.  This will eliminate the need to apply pressure where they are federally delisted, well because this is what the northeast (kretz) as well as the farm bureau asked for.  Sad state of affairs and the non consumptive wolf advocates win! (Oh wait, Mitch is a hunter)

Management can only happen anywhere in this state if all three areas have 3 breeding pairs of wolves for three consecutive years, or if enough people make enough calls to get the wolf plan changed or over turned!

[Tbar]

I understand that.  This will not be progress, after all the same people who advocated for this bill from a northeast perspective, litigate on behalf of their western Washington constituents.

[Tbar]

The problem is the wolf plan, there is no arguing that. This does nothing to help. 

[Humptulips]

You guys better all start calling your REPS and SENATORS and tell them you don't want wolves! My legislator is doing his job, the only way we can get delisted in the NE is for western WA to have wolves. Maybe if enough of you complain to your legislators that you don't want wolves your legislators will pass something so we can manage wolves in Northeast WA.

Make the calls or get the wolves!

We already have them, 3-4 years I figure 5-6 packs on this side from Canadian border south to Seattle area.

The peninsula is going to take a lot longer. 

We don't need them! Build the wall!

[Calvin Rayborn]

I think moving them west is the best thing we can do,spread the love around a bit.

Hope it happens sooner than later.

Turn em' loose on the Capitol grounds and give lawmakers the education lesson they deserve!