Stop HR 5087!!

[N7XW]

Mods, feel free to move if this should be somewhere else on the forum.

HR5087 proposes to ban AR and other rifles and high capacity magazines.  This needs to be stopped.  Sign the petition to stop this:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-hr5087-stop-gun-ban

[stew pidasso]

Done

[hunter399]

Here's a link to ban bump stocks nation wide,give em a inch and guns will be baned ,i thought I was interesting anyway.

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/atf-starts-process-outlaw-bump-stocks-act-now/?utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Chronicle+033118-ATF+Starts+Process+to+Outlaw+Bump-Stocks+%E2%80%94+Act+Now%21-2018-04-01+06%3A05%3A10&sc_src=email_3195118&sc_lid=165962512&sc_uid=3JI4BRIZzx&sc_llid=1218263&sc_eh=b7eb9121b97316211

[hunter399]

From quick reading of the bill in the past few min,It targets ar15 mostly ,i find it funny that mini14,sks are not included in the bill .

Here's a link to the bill for better reading.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5087/text

[Cougartail]

From quick reading of the bill in the past few min,It targets ar15 mostly ,i find it funny that mini14,sks are not included in the bill .

Here's a link to the bill for better reading.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5087/text

Nothing funny about targeting the AR-15. It is the symbol of the white American male who is still a man. This is nothing more than a passive aggressive attack on testosterone. Women and wimpy men are passive aggressive.. Men are outwardly aggressive.

[northwesthunter84]

Done

[lord grizzly]

Has anyone read the proposal yet? Ban them from what? The one in my safe won’t be banned, it will still be there. What exact am they ban? Manufacturing

[Bob33]

Has anyone read the proposal yet? Ban them from what? The one in my safe won’t be banned, it will still be there. What exact am they ban? Manufacturing

Yes I did read it.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5087

It would ban "assault weapons".

“(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted:

“(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

“(i) A pistol grip.

“(ii) A forward grip.

“(iii) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.

“(iv) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.

“(v) A barrel shroud.

“(vi) A threaded barrel.

“(B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, except for an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.

“(C) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic rifle but not convert the semiautomatic rifle into a machinegun.

“(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:

“(i) A threaded barrel.

“(ii) A second pistol grip.

“(iii) A barrel shroud.

“(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

“(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

“(E) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

“(F) A semiautomatic shotgun that has any one of the following:

“(i) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.

“(ii) A pistol grip.

“(iii) A fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds.

“(iv) The ability to accept a detachable magazine.

“(v) A forward grip.

“(vi) A grenade launcher or rocket launcher.

[lord grizzly]

Thanks for the link. That’s what I was looking for. Essentially what I thought. It bans manufacturing of more but grandfathers existing. This thing should go exactly no where and be a death sentence to any politician up for election. Good noise for the left though

[WAcoyotehunter]

From quick reading of the bill in the past few min,It targets ar15 mostly ,i find it funny that mini14,sks are not included in the bill .

Here's a link to the bill for better reading.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5087/text

Nothing funny about targeting the AR-15. It is the symbol of the white American male who is still a man. This is nothing more than a passive aggressive attack on testosterone. Women and wimpy men are passive aggressive.. Men are outwardly aggressive.

WTH?  Masculinity issues?  Guns do not represent "manliness". 

[N7XW]

I was wondering what "grandfathered" meant too.  So currently owned rifles will still be legal?  Unlike the proposed law to ban bump stocks which would require surrending them.

[Bob33]

"Assault Weapon":

[trophyhunt]

Signed

[Cougartail]

From quick reading of the bill in the past few min,It targets ar15 mostly ,i find it funny that mini14,sks are not included in the bill .

Here's a link to the bill for better reading.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5087/text

Nothing funny about targeting the AR-15. It is the symbol of the white American male who is still a man. This is nothing more than a passive aggressive attack on testosterone. Women and wimpy men are passive aggressive.. Men are outwardly aggressive.

WTH?  Masculinity issues?  Guns do not represent "manliness".

Yeah, I see so many women and effeminate males buying the AR-15. I hear this spring Rock River is coming out with a new pastel color line of rifles.. Should be a big hit!
All rational conversations about banning it boil down to "why do you need one". It's about power on one side and control on the other. 

[lord grizzly]

Definitely not a gender issue. Wtf?? Get some perspective

[Cougartail]

Definitely not a gender issue. Wtf?? Get some perspective

You should get educated.. Let me guess.. You're not a psychologist? Any agenda that has been tied to "child safety" is a gender issue. Women are emotional and irrational when it comes to protecting "the children" and easily mislead.. This is about demonizing a type of man who own a symbol (AR's), that kills few children, for a political end. I could write a book on this topic but I don't have the time now. Clue in..

[WAcoyotehunter]

Lol- you might have to write that book, because I don't have any damn idea what you're talking about. 

We should probably go ahead a demonize a man that owns and AR and kills a few children....

Way to generalize that "women are irrational".... Get a clue dude, it's 2018 and you are about 100 years behind.

[lord grizzly]

Definitely not a gender issue. Wtf?? Get some perspective

You should get educated.. Let me guess.. You're not a psychologist? Any agenda that has been tied to "child safety" is a gender issue. Women are emotional and irrational when it comes to protecting "the children" and easily mislead.. This is about demonizing a type of man who own a symbol (AR's), that kills few children, for a political end. I could write a book on this topic but I don't have the time now. Clue in..

You sound super educated 

[Rainier10]

Keep it civil fellas. Maybe step away from the keyboard for a bit and get this back on topic.

[hunter399]

From quick reading of the bill in the past few min,It targets ar15 mostly ,i find it funny that mini14,sks are not included in the bill .

Here's a link to the bill for better reading.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5087/text

Nothing funny about targeting the AR-15. It is the symbol of the white American male who is still a man. This is nothing more than a passive aggressive attack on testosterone. Women and wimpy men are passive aggressive.. Men are outwardly aggressive.

I seen cougartail post this morning ,and have to agree gender has nothing to do with who owns this gun or that gun, or the 2nd amendment.

[Cougartail]

The cellphone kills more children by far then the AR-15. (talking/texting while driving.) Why isn't there an outcry from women to ban them? It's because they aren't evil and we need them?  Not irrational thinking? We lived for 100s of years without them but we need them now and a few dead children is a acceptable price to pay?

Trust me men have gender based irrational thought proccesses also. "I need a "gun" to survive in bear country." A guy I know in the Alaska bush only carried a 22 pistol while trapping for the last 30 some years. No bear encounters.. He laughs at the clowns from cities and lower 48.

And yes all women are irrational in ways and so are all men.. Evolution of the human brain is pretty much liniar and our world is changing geometrically. Responses to situations new and unknown are often irrational.

[Skyvalhunter]

Well yea bears are more than likely going to be hibernating when he was checking his traps

[Cougartail]

He lives in the bush 24/7 365 and spends most days along rivers filled with salmon in the summer..