wolves in Olympics

[trophyelk6x6]

https://www.nwpb.org/2018/03/19/study-olympic-national-park-among-best-places-to-bring-back-gray-wolves/

[robodad]

Rewilding spree killing machines to minimize riverbank erosion...........seriously !!! 

[bigmacc]

OH MY LORD, this is why we need a GAME DEPARTMENT folks!!!

[fishngamereaper]

I know some logger's out there...good luck wolves.

[WapitiTalk1]

Of course its a perfect place for them; there's no hunting or hunters in the area.  They'll thrive and multiply like a Kardashian at a pro sports dinner (only with less competition to feed).   Lord, I apologize for that one there, and please be with all the starving Pygmies down there in New Guinea, Amen....

[MarkTrail]

The kardashian comparison may be the best ever.

[Southpole]

Of course its a perfect place for them; there's no hunting or hunters in the area.  They'll thrive and multiply like a Kardashian at a pro sports dinner (only with less competition to feed).   Lord, I apologize for that one there, and please be with all the starving Pygmies down there in New Guinea, Amen....

That’s funny right there...

[huntnfmly]

Of course its a perfect place for them; there's no hunting or hunters in the area.  They'll thrive and multiply like a Kardashian at a pro sports dinner (only with less competition to feed).   Lord, I apologize for that one there, and please be with all the starving Pygmies down there in New Guinea, Amen....

That’s funny right there...

I don't care who you are😂

[Peewee]

The only place in the state u can elk hunt without hoof rot n wolf's, so much for that lol

[grade-creek-rd]

This is great news!!!!...per the WDFW Wolf Management Plan if wolves can be established in Western WA we will have met the last prong needed to declassify the wolf in WA, which means we can start managing them! In other words, what is keeping us from having a hunting season on wolves in WA is the need to have the distribution and breeding pack numbers.

Gotta find the positive sometimes in the negative...

Grade

[nwhunter]

Yep if we have to get wolves in western Washington to begin managing/killing them put them deep in the heart of the park where the hippies like to roam. Of course they wont stay there but better than putting them right where they will start eating the deer and elk we get to hunt tight off the bat..

[jackelope]

Yep if we have to get wolves in western Washington to begin managing/killing them put them deep in the heart of the park where the hippies like to roam. Of course they wont stay there but better than putting them right where they will start eating the deer and elk we get to hunt tight off the bat..

If there's got to be a place on the west side, that's a great place for them.

[Southpole]

Sorry guys but we won’t be able to hunt them “legally”, the state will have their department “manage” the problem wolves... that’s how that’s going to be  .

[Woodchuck]

Sorry guys but we won’t be able to hunt them “legally”, the state will have their department “manage” the problem wolves... that’s how that’s going to be  .

Sadly, I believe this is spot on. 

[pianoman9701]

Sorry guys but we won’t be able to hunt them “legally”, the state will have their department “manage” the problem wolves... that’s how that’s going to be  .

I don't believe we'll see wolf hunts in WA until they've cleaned out the ungulates and started looking for their food closer to humans and actually eat some. It'll eventually happen but probably not in my lifetime.

[PolarBear]

Mick Dodge will have them all as pets. 

[huntnphool]

 Anybody hanging on to the premise of a wolf hunting season in this state is delusional. We will see at least three different presidents in office before that happens, and if any of them are democrats.....it will never happen.

[wolfbait]

Elk Herd Declines 40% in five Years

http://idahoforwildlife.com/files/pdf/georgeDovel/The%20Outdoorsman%20No%20%2017%20Feb-Mar%202006%20The%20Northern%20Yellowstone%20elk%20herd.pdf

[wolfbait]

This is a good read, it will explain what will happen in the Olympics.


Predation and the Ecology of Fear

http://www.aowha.org/documents/predation_ecology_of_fear_kay.pdf

[Alchase]

Now we just have to get these wolves to be able to read where the "Park boundary" signs are. 

[wolfbait]

Now we just have to get these wolves to be able to read where the "Park boundary" signs are. 

 

https://christophermartinphotography.com/2016/02/24/more-from-the-banff-wolf-packs-attack-on-the-elk/

[Humptulips]

I see they drug out that trophic cascade effect. You know the theory that elk are destroying the banks causing erosion because there are too many. The wolves will take care of that and we will have salmon up the wazoo.
You can tell they have an agenda because they failed to mention the latest findings:

 
 "Channel-planform evolution in four rivers of Olympic National Park, Washington, USA: the roles of physical drivers and trophic cascades", Amy E. East, Kurt J. Jenkins, Patricia J. Happe,et al., Earth Surf. Process. Landforms 42, 1011–1032 (2017).   https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2018&context=usgsstaffpub

 "We use a 74-year aerial photographic record of the Hoh, Queets, Quinault, and Elwha Rivers, Olympic National Park, Washington, USA, to investigate whether physical or... excessive elk impacts after wolves were extirpated a century ago are the dominant drivers of channel planform in these gravel-bed rivers.  We infer no correspondence between channel evolution and elk abundance, suggesting that trophic-cascade effects in this setting are subsidiary to physical controls on channel morphology.  Our findings differ from previous interpretations of Olympic National Park fluvial dynamics and contrast with the classic example of Yellowstone National Park, where legacy effects of elk overuse are apparent in channel morphology; we attribute these differences to hydrologic regime and large-wood availability."

[Humptulips]

I also find it extremely dishonest that they say "hunters appreciate wolves on the landscape".
I'm sure they have a study to back that up. (Where's the sarcasm emoji.)

It looks like the type of study I see more often today where the study follows the predetermined conclusion.

[Special T]

Some of you suckers will belive a politicians promise... I feel sorry for you...

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[nwhunter]

I don't believe we have any choice in whether or not the wolves are coming to the westside of our state just like we had no say in bringing them to the eastside.. I don't want my post earlier to be confused that I want wolves anywhere  or that I believe what the political people say or biologist either.. I see first hand what wolves are doing to the eastside of our state and also know what they have done to other states so of course I don't want them here but I'm smart enough to know the people that want wolves have more money and power than us hunters .. so the wolves will be coming to the westside no doubt so if anywhere I hope they put them in the Park.. No they won't stay there just like they haven't stayed anywhere else as they kill and move on but what's a better choice when we really don't have one??

[fishngamereaper]

Remove goats because they are aggressive and eating to much natural forage. Add wolves because.....ya I got nothing.


Most of the designated Park area is to steep and rugged for wolves so into the foothills they will go, and thrive. 

[nwhunter]

Ya its quite a 180 from the homesteading days of the 1900's when common sense prevailed and the wolves were dealt with so people could survive off the land and the mt goats were brought down here to hunt.. Pretty sad world we have to deal with now a days..

[dingle]

Huntnphool is so spot on     I know the big bad wolf's are not as Dangerous to the public as the Mountain Goats are  WOW

[paguy]

Look at the size of the rural Olympic peninsula, Olympic national park, Then look at the size of eastern Washington. It wont take long for the wolves to totally destroy the deer and elk populations over here.