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Quote from: Timberstalker on April 16, 2018, 10:12:56 AMQuote from: Cougartail on April 16, 2018, 09:33:47 AMRegion 3 fills all quotas except in 371 and 372 for cougars. This year those were met also which was suprising due to land ownership. You brought up the threat to humans and used the liberal tactics, "they are dangerous" even though few people are ever killed. (AR-15s are dangerous but kill few people..better ban them!) Argue valid points or I 'll continue to but thing into prespective..Lots of region 3 still open for Cougar hunting.....https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/cougar/Region 3 is all units starting with the number 3.. all closed.
Quote from: Cougartail on April 16, 2018, 09:33:47 AMRegion 3 fills all quotas except in 371 and 372 for cougars. This year those were met also which was suprising due to land ownership. You brought up the threat to humans and used the liberal tactics, "they are dangerous" even though few people are ever killed. (AR-15s are dangerous but kill few people..better ban them!) Argue valid points or I 'll continue to but thing into prespective..Lots of region 3 still open for Cougar hunting.....https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/cougar/
Region 3 fills all quotas except in 371 and 372 for cougars. This year those were met also which was suprising due to land ownership. You brought up the threat to humans and used the liberal tactics, "they are dangerous" even though few people are ever killed. (AR-15s are dangerous but kill few people..better ban them!) Argue valid points or I 'll continue to but thing into prespective..
Quote from: Cougartail on April 16, 2018, 09:58:58 AMQuote from: 92xj on April 16, 2018, 07:40:51 AMTwo men followed a pack of 7 wolves for 13 days and found 7 FRESH elk kills off the road they were traveling on snow mobiles. Not looking in the woods, drainagaes, etc.1 medium pack, 13 days, 7 bull elk killed.I think your computer numbers statiscal *censored* is nowhere close to what is actually happening in the woods.Let's believe the wdfw in what they say, look at all the people believing the harvest stats that wdfw just posted. It blows my mind that people think those numbers are accurate.Did your buddies check for bullet holes in those elk? Wolves are so successful at hunting.. that is why they ate all the plastic coating off extension cords at my buddies cabin in Alaska one winter. lolAs for believing those in the "feild", my buddy has over 50 years living with and trapping wolves in Alaska. Yeah I know Alaska wolves are completely different than Washington wolves.. Again..lolNot my buddies...Hard to check for bullet holes when they eat and break rib, leg, face and other bones when eating, I thought you would know that wolves did that when eating kills in the winter when needing all the feed they can get, being the expert you are.Call your Alaskan buddy, he can educate you more.Sounds like you should venture out in the field; haven't been there in a while have you?
Quote from: 92xj on April 16, 2018, 07:40:51 AMTwo men followed a pack of 7 wolves for 13 days and found 7 FRESH elk kills off the road they were traveling on snow mobiles. Not looking in the woods, drainagaes, etc.1 medium pack, 13 days, 7 bull elk killed.I think your computer numbers statiscal *censored* is nowhere close to what is actually happening in the woods.Let's believe the wdfw in what they say, look at all the people believing the harvest stats that wdfw just posted. It blows my mind that people think those numbers are accurate.Did your buddies check for bullet holes in those elk? Wolves are so successful at hunting.. that is why they ate all the plastic coating off extension cords at my buddies cabin in Alaska one winter. lolAs for believing those in the "feild", my buddy has over 50 years living with and trapping wolves in Alaska. Yeah I know Alaska wolves are completely different than Washington wolves.. Again..lol
Two men followed a pack of 7 wolves for 13 days and found 7 FRESH elk kills off the road they were traveling on snow mobiles. Not looking in the woods, drainagaes, etc.1 medium pack, 13 days, 7 bull elk killed.I think your computer numbers statiscal *censored* is nowhere close to what is actually happening in the woods.Let's believe the wdfw in what they say, look at all the people believing the harvest stats that wdfw just posted. It blows my mind that people think those numbers are accurate.
Quote from: Cougartail on April 16, 2018, 10:48:33 AMQuote from: Timberstalker on April 16, 2018, 10:12:56 AMQuote from: Cougartail on April 16, 2018, 09:33:47 AMRegion 3 fills all quotas except in 371 and 372 for cougars. This year those were met also which was suprising due to land ownership. You brought up the threat to humans and used the liberal tactics, "they are dangerous" even though few people are ever killed. (AR-15s are dangerous but kill few people..better ban them!) Argue valid points or I 'll continue to but thing into prespective..Lots of region 3 still open for Cougar hunting.....https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/cougar/Region 3 is all units starting with the number 3.. all closed.Wrong again.Look at the 8th row in the link. There are 300 series units listed as OPEN
I'll put you in the non-thinking, emotional and irrational category along with all the westside liberals..Wolf kills on deer and elk, 6000 max.Cougar kills on deer and elk, 85,000 min.Yeah, I'm the one who isn't thinking clearly..Do you want me to estimate bears and coyotes for you? lol
Yeah, wolves aren’t impacting ungulates that bad.
Quote from: Timberstalker on April 30, 2018, 04:43:22 AMYeah, wolves aren’t impacting ungulates that bad. And now permits are down 50% in some units, where is the explanation for that? Was it the horrible winter we had?? (sarcasm)! And if the wdfw can calculate wolf kills accurately , they are super human!
I live in the blues...watch bulls year round from my living room.
Quote from: Cougartail on April 15, 2018, 01:05:46 PMWolf kills on deer and elk, 6000 max.Cougar kills on deer and elk, 85,000 min.Yeah, I'm the one who isn't thinking clearly..Do you want me to estimate bears and coyotes for you? lolI agree with some of your points here but your math is skewed,You didn't do any figures on wolf kills for just killing.Bears,Coyotes and Cats don't just kill for sport,Wolves do.
Wolf kills on deer and elk, 6000 max.Cougar kills on deer and elk, 85,000 min.Yeah, I'm the one who isn't thinking clearly..Do you want me to estimate bears and coyotes for you? lol
They are out right now collecting and marking moose for population estimates. They have seen such increases in moose numbers they are INCREASING moose permits 20%. All moose hunting is in NE Wa where wolves are at the highest densities. Overall moose numbers are increasing though (and we all know moose are a primary food for wolves)...so I guess what you are saying is at high densities wolves alter game behavior but do not usually cause any sort of declines in game abundance?...even with lots of wolves running around up in NE Wa, you agree the primary effect is a benefit to hunters. We totally agree...the relative impact of wolves on game abundance and availability to hunters is insignificant...there will continue to be lots of deer, elk, moose hunting throughout Washington regardless of wolves. Killing them will help with depredation issues and increase social tolerance...but even if they never de-list them it will not have a substantial impact to hunting.
