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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2018, 12:23:38 PM »
It is what it is.My comparison between fish and birds is fact.Where the law exempts logging mining and farming it could have fish and game waste.You cant take mining waste and dump it in the middle of Seattle so you cant do it with fish and game.It would be the same,It can go where it came from and that's that. Easy Peezy.   :twocents:  Money grab!
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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2018, 12:24:14 PM »
As sportsmen this shouldn't even be an issue. We are constantly under the spotlight for our actions. Yet people leave fish guts in parking lots at the boat ramp. People dump big game carcasses on pullouts. I've even seen carcasses dumped at school bus stops. Our slobs are working against us  :twocents:

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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2018, 12:26:08 PM »
I agree with this Olyguy79 .Every state huh?I saw states making it ok for homeless to defecate wherever they want,So WA. wants to penalize a fisherman for leaving fish guts in the water where they caught the fish but a homeless can take a dump on the sidewalk with no penalty in some states?
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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2018, 12:27:37 PM »
I would like to see someone that actually got a ticket.

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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2018, 12:30:13 PM »
I would like to see someone that actually got a ticket.
The harassment would be enough to make it wrong.Let alone the ticket.  :twocents:
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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2018, 12:36:18 PM »
It appears that as Bigtex says it is broad,That is no way to have a rule.It needs to be spelled out in the regs as to where it is not ok to do it.That goes for fish and game.  :twocents:
It's not a reg, it's law. Like I said, this isn't a fish and wildlife offense, it's the state litter law.

Under state law:
"Litter" means all waste material including but not limited to disposable packages or containers thrown or deposited as herein prohibited and solid waste that is illegally dumped, but not including the wastes of the primary processes of mining, logging, sawmilling, farming, or manufacturing.

And no, "waste material" isn't defined, that's the broad part of the law.

If I am reading what you stated above. Leaving your deer carcass is the forest is legally littering?    :dunno:

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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2018, 12:38:16 PM »
What in the law exempts water Fowl hunters from this law.Placing decoys out in the water?The way things are going you could be out fishing with your family and one of your kids loses his/her line littering the water with a hook and sinker set up and get a ticket for it.  :bash:
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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2018, 12:45:06 PM »
There's this thing called common sense guys.

If it looks bad, it probably is, and you should be cited.

Leaving the duck blind with 50 hulls in it looks bad, and it's littering.

Leaving a deer carcass away from the road where nobody will see it doesn't look bad.

Leaving a deer carcass at a school bus stop looks bad.

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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2018, 12:46:29 PM »
What in the law exempts water Fowl hunters from this law.Placing decoys out in the water?The way things are going you could be out fishing with your family and one of your kids loses his/her line littering the water with a hook and sinker set up and get a ticket for it.  :bash:
Again, common sense. It's why officers can use discretion.

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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2018, 12:46:49 PM »
It appears that as Bigtex says it is broad,That is no way to have a rule.It needs to be spelled out in the regs as to where it is not ok to do it.That goes for fish and game.  :twocents:
It's not a reg, it's law. Like I said, this isn't a fish and wildlife offense, it's the state litter law.

Under state law:
"Litter" means all waste material including but not limited to disposable packages or containers thrown or deposited as herein prohibited and solid waste that is illegally dumped, but not including the wastes of the primary processes of mining, logging, sawmilling, farming, or manufacturing.

And no, "waste material" isn't defined, that's the broad part of the law.

If I am reading what you stated above. Leaving your deer carcass is the forest is legally littering?    :dunno:

If you dump it on the trailhead of a popular day hike, it probably is.

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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2018, 12:47:40 PM »
It appears that as Bigtex says it is broad,That is no way to have a rule.It needs to be spelled out in the regs as to where it is not ok to do it.That goes for fish and game.  :twocents:
It's not a reg, it's law. Like I said, this isn't a fish and wildlife offense, it's the state litter law.

Under state law:
"Litter" means all waste material including but not limited to disposable packages or containers thrown or deposited as herein prohibited and solid waste that is illegally dumped, but not including the wastes of the primary processes of mining, logging, sawmilling, farming, or manufacturing.

And no, "waste material" isn't defined, that's the broad part of the law.
If I am reading what you stated above. Leaving your deer carcass is the forest is legally littering?    :dunno:
If you dump it on the trailhead of a popular day hike, it probably is.
And in my view you should be cited  :twocents:

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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2018, 12:53:18 PM »
There's this thing called common sense guys.

If it looks bad, it probably is, and you should be cited.

Leaving the duck blind with 50 hulls in it looks bad, and it's littering.

Leaving a deer carcass away from the road where nobody will see it doesn't look bad.

Leaving a deer carcass at a school bus stop looks bad.
Agreed but hulls are not fish or wildlife and the deer was not killed at the school bus stop,If it was then other laws were broken also.
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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2018, 01:03:41 PM »
What in the law exempts water Fowl hunters from this law.Placing decoys out in the water?The way things are going you could be out fishing with your family and one of your kids loses his/her line littering the water with a hook and sinker set up and get a ticket for it.  :bash:
Again, common sense. It's why officers can use discretion.

Some officers don't have "discretion" in their toolkit.   We used to have one over here like that.  I understand he quit.

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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2018, 06:51:11 PM »
How would this be any different than all the fish cleaning stations on every dock in every fishing town?
They all dump the guts straight back into a the water.
Wouldn’t that be selective enforcement?

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Re: So Why(?) Is Cleaning A Trout On Shore A Fineable Offense?
« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2018, 10:41:35 AM »
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