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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2018, 06:08:39 PM »
They're allowed on Weyerhaeuser just like any other motorized vehicle. Of course you need an access permit as Weyerhaeuser no longer allows access to anyone unless they buy an access permit.


Correct, should have clearly said I was referring to their walk-in permits...thanks!

Also a better screenshot because I realized after that post, it was carried over a page and cut off in my shot.
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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2018, 06:54:13 PM »
Don't you just love Wahingtonfornia.............
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2018, 07:06:51 PM »
Wa= if ya can think of a law its here, if not wait a year!
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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2018, 07:11:00 PM »
Driving on open motorized roads ,i don't see a problem.But if your going behind gates that are no motorized vehicles than no , not legal expect a ticket.


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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2018, 07:16:39 PM »
Don't you just love Wahingtonfornia.............
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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2018, 11:03:35 PM »
Well if we want to talk grey area, when a sign says “no unauthorized MOTOR vehicles” a motor runs on electricity and an engine runs on combustion, so ditch the bike and just drive your rig in... :chuckle:
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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2018, 02:13:35 AM »
Im looking for the WAC. I should have it mo day or tusday unless the guy was BSing me.
Washington Administrative Code says 700 watt or less
All the signs say no unauthorized motor vehicles. Electric motor is still a motor. :dunno:
What's the relevant WAC?

Same as if you get caught behind a gate with a motor vehicle.
Most of the timber companies along the cost have said no to electric bikes.
Yeah I understand that. I was asking scoutdog346 what specific WAC he was referencing.

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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2018, 02:27:53 AM »
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Even if your injury doesn’t pass the WDFW’s disabled qualifications, you might try and contact the timber company direct and try to get some type of medical waver? It’s not like you’re trying to totally ignore or break their rules. Plus the batteries themselves have limitations. Doesn’t hurt to ask.

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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2018, 02:29:52 AM »
I'm talking about using it on the walk on area of warehouser
They're allowed on Weyerhaeuser just like any other motorized vehicle. Of course you need an access permit as Weyerhaeuser no longer allows access to anyone unless they buy an access permit.

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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2018, 06:00:32 AM »
I'm talking about using it on the walk on area of warehouser
They're allowed on Weyerhaeuser just like any other motorized vehicle. Of course you need an access permit as Weyerhaeuser no longer allows access to anyone unless they buy an access permit.

Looks like this answer is pretty clear if on Weyco
They're allowed on Weyerhaeuser just like any other motorized vehicle. Of course you need an access permit as Weyerhaeuser no longer allows access to anyone unless they buy an access permit.


Correct, should have clearly said I was referring to their walk-in permits...thanks!

Also a better screenshot because I realized after that post, it was carried over a page and cut off in my shot.

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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2018, 06:47:41 AM »
DNR WAC

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"Motor vehicle or motorized vehicle" means any device that is moved or propelled by an internal combustion engine or electrically powered motor. It shall include, but not be limited to automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles, motor bikes, motor-scooters and off-road vehicles, whether or not they can be licensed to operate on public roads. The term does not include vessels or personal mobility assistive devices, such as wheelchairs.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=332-52&full=true#332-52-010

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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2018, 02:58:03 PM »
I don't see the problem Washington State regulates them as a bicycle, if I had one I'd ride it wherever I wanted

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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2018, 04:33:35 PM »
I think they should be classified as a motorized vehicle. Some of them are stating they are able to go 20+ miles without peddling. It takes away from the hard work that guys put in to get behind locked gates, if someone comes riding in on they're $5000 dollar electric bike. You could by a used dirt bike and an Idaho tag, for half the cost of one of those things and you could ride your heart out in Idaho.
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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2018, 06:15:31 PM »
I ride one. Say what you want about it "not being fair to the guys that walk in and put in the miles on foot" but I've put my fair share in on foot. I recently had a bone fusion in my foot which now limits my mobility and I can only put in a small percentage of miles that I used to. I also do not qualify for a disabled permit. I saved up my pennies, bucked up some cash and now ride behind locked gates- which I rode before on a regular mountain bike. If I want to spend the money on that (and it's legal) I think that's more than fair. I still get up way before daylight, put in my time and I go up to areas that guys/gals either don't want to walk to or see no reason to go to. I pass numerous clear cuts that a lot of people hunt because it's lower in elevation, easier to get to from the road and they don't go any further than that. I choose going a lot farther back, as a way to get away from the crowd. My  :twocents:

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Re: Outlawing electrical mountain bikes in Washington?
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2018, 06:41:19 PM »
DNR WAC

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"Motor vehicle or motorized vehicle" means any device that is moved or propelled by an internal combustion engine or electrically powered motor. It shall include, but not be limited to automobiles, trucks, motorcycles, all-terrain vehicles, motor bikes, motor-scooters and off-road vehicles, whether or not they can be licensed to operate on public roads. The term does not include vessels or personal mobility assistive devices, such as wheelchairs.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/WAC/default.aspx?cite=332-52&full=true#332-52-010

I take it then they’re not allowed behind locked gates unless you have an aforementioned motorized permit. So, what is the argument again? I agree, they should not be allowed behind locked gates. They are artificially powered.


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