Wolves tree DNR worker in Okanogan county

[Jpmiller]

http://www.cachevalleydaily.com/news/archive/2017/02/10/3f70199a-ef1a-11e6-94b9-ef89df8d8d64/#.W1ElXBZlCaM

Sorry to burst your bubble but she's not a USFS employee. And that is public knowledge.

https://www.fs.fed.us/about-agency/contact-us/employee-search?first_name=&last_name=Tallian+&office=

She probably has friends. Lol

“ Aimee Tallian poses in front of Pelican Valley winter base camp, where she and other members of her crew study wolf interactions....”.

Not everything is a conspiracy. One of the luxuries of being a federal employee is being able to take temporary assignments all over the US, similar to how state employees bounce all over a state. There are federal game wardens from all over the US in Texas right now doing border enforcement, or are they??? Maybe the real reason is they're capturing wolves from Mexico and bringing them to their home states! 

Now pretty soon I'm going to start seeing stories about the game warden who lesked that his Co workers are trapping wolves in Mexico for reintroduction. Thanks 

[wolfbait]

I'd wonder if all the people wanting to know who she was and who she worked for would post in this thread their name, their job and the location where they live. Especially any of those who work for the government.

This is not really a pertinent analogy though. She's a public employee as well as being involved in a rescue operation which was reported by the news and investigated by the county sheriff. I don't see any parallel between her situation and someone taking part in an online forum. 

Just because you are part of a rescue operation doesn't mean your name needs to be plastered everywhere. As for the sheriff's "investigation" it's political and not legally based. There's no law that says the sheriff (or any LE agency) has to investigate what happened. The sheriff is simply going on along the "public safety" route, well there's no law that says you have to ID yourself when an agency is investigating something for "public safety" reasons.

Heck, I'm sure she probably got cut up and may have some psychological issues from this, hello HIPPA protection.

Well, that's what usually happens when the government has to spend thousands of dollars to go rescue someone out of the wilderness. Personally, I don't care who she is as long as we can get to the bottom of the story. That's where the rub is. Without knowing who she is, we're going to have a hard time pinpointing the responsible department and exactly what they were doing there and why they whisked her away before the local authorities had a chance to question her for information which could be used to keep locals safe. It certainly wasn't a salmon count and it was handled oddly.

The department responsible for what?

Here's the thing. Wolves are wild animals. They could be dangerous to people. So could bears. So could lions. So could raccoons. People shouldn't need to be told that. If you do, you might consider taking up a new hobby.

Typical load of BS.

Not quite right there jack, I have run into several folks from different parts of the country who seem to think wolves  don't attack people, they are shy timid creatures etc.. So you say the people shouldn't need to be told that there have been several human/wolf attacks. I bet WDFW are cheering you on right now, because they sure as hell haven't been honest with the public in that department either.


Why doesn't the USFWS, WDFW report to the public about the wolf attacks where the wolf was shot, investigated and proven to be legit? Or even the reports of wolves following/stalking people in the Okanogan? They wouldn't be trying to hide the many wolf/human conflicts would they? Maybe keep the same BS stories they have told about the wolves being shy creatures in the forefront?

We wouldn't be hearing about this story if it hadn't involved the sheriff office or DNR, it would be like all the others, hidden from the public.

How long would it have taken to get a wolf pack confirmed if there wouldn't have been a 911 call of a wolf pack hanging out at a school buss stop? People had lost stock to the wolves, reported wolves in several different areas, and WDFW ignore all of them, except they couldn't get around the 911 call.

Carry on jack, you'r doing just dandy....

[cbond3318]

  this is fantastic!


She was clearly releasing wolves , again, while researching a possible  salmon source for the Grizzly introduction secretly scheduled for next Tuesday, The Mucks funded it, Putin signed off on it and Hillary thought of it. Wait till MAGA finds out!

[kirkl]

Im sure I’ll never draw a tag again. Lol

I posed the question on their Facebook open forum discussing their 30 million dollar debt.   I wanted to know how much is spent on wolf recovery every year.   Several others seconded the question.   They refused to answer.  @kirkl  and I will probably be in the loser lounge forever.

Lol, I’ll be right there with ya brother. I asked that question multiple times on there posts and they refuse to answer the question.

[Knocker of rocks]

Putin signed off on it...........Wait till MAGA finds out!

He will touch himself

[jackelope]

I'd wonder if all the people wanting to know who she was and who she worked for would post in this thread their name, their job and the location where they live. Especially any of those who work for the government.

This is not really a pertinent analogy though. She's a public employee as well as being involved in a rescue operation which was reported by the news and investigated by the county sheriff. I don't see any parallel between her situation and someone taking part in an online forum. 

Just because you are part of a rescue operation doesn't mean your name needs to be plastered everywhere. As for the sheriff's "investigation" it's political and not legally based. There's no law that says the sheriff (or any LE agency) has to investigate what happened. The sheriff is simply going on along the "public safety" route, well there's no law that says you have to ID yourself when an agency is investigating something for "public safety" reasons.

Heck, I'm sure she probably got cut up and may have some psychological issues from this, hello HIPPA protection.

Well, that's what usually happens when the government has to spend thousands of dollars to go rescue someone out of the wilderness. Personally, I don't care who she is as long as we can get to the bottom of the story. That's where the rub is. Without knowing who she is, we're going to have a hard time pinpointing the responsible department and exactly what they were doing there and why they whisked her away before the local authorities had a chance to question her for information which could be used to keep locals safe. It certainly wasn't a salmon count and it was handled oddly.

The department responsible for what?

Here's the thing. Wolves are wild animals. They could be dangerous to people. So could bears. So could lions. So could raccoons. People shouldn't need to be told that. If you do, you might consider taking up a new hobby.

Typical load of BS.

Not quite right there jack, I have run into several folks from different parts of the country who seem to think wolves  don't attack people, they are shy timid creatures etc.. So you say the people shouldn't need to be told that there have been several human/wolf attacks. I bet WDFW are cheering you on right now, because they sure as hell haven't been honest with the public in that department either.


Why doesn't the USFWS, WDFW report to the public about the wolf attacks where the wolf was shot, investigated and proven to be legit? Or even the reports of wolves following/stalking people in the Okanogan? They wouldn't be trying to hide the many wolf/human conflicts would they? Maybe keep the same BS stories they have told about the wolves being shy creatures in the forefront?

We wouldn't be hearing about this story if it hadn't involved the sheriff office or DNR, it would be like all the others, hidden from the public.

How long would it have taken to get a wolf pack confirmed if there wouldn't have been a 911 call of a wolf pack hanging out at a school buss stop? People had lost stock to the wolves, reported wolves in several different areas, and WDFW ignore all of them, except they couldn't get around the 911 call.

Carry on jack, you'r doing just dandy....

Don’t ever go into the woods alone, man. There’s no telling what wild animal could attack with no warning. Before you know it you’ll be up a tree.

[Dan-o]

I'd wonder if all the people wanting to know who she was and who she worked for would post in this thread their name, their job and the location where they live. Especially any of those who work for the government.

This is not really a pertinent analogy though. She's a public employee as well as being involved in a rescue operation which was reported by the news and investigated by the county sheriff. I don't see any parallel between her situation and someone taking part in an online forum. 

Just because you are part of a rescue operation doesn't mean your name needs to be plastered everywhere. As for the sheriff's "investigation" it's political and not legally based. There's no law that says the sheriff (or any LE agency) has to investigate what happened. The sheriff is simply going on along the "public safety" route, well there's no law that says you have to ID yourself when an agency is investigating something for "public safety" reasons.

Heck, I'm sure she probably got cut up and may have some psychological issues from this, hello HIPPA protection.

Well, that's what usually happens when the government has to spend thousands of dollars to go rescue someone out of the wilderness. Personally, I don't care who she is as long as we can get to the bottom of the story. That's where the rub is. Without knowing who she is, we're going to have a hard time pinpointing the responsible department and exactly what they were doing there and why they whisked her away before the local authorities had a chance to question her for information which could be used to keep locals safe. It certainly wasn't a salmon count and it was handled oddly.

The department responsible for what?

Here's the thing. Wolves are wild animals. They could be dangerous to people. So could bears. So could lions. So could raccoons. People shouldn't need to be told that. If you do, you might consider taking up a new hobby.

Typical load of BS.

Not quite right there jack, I have run into several folks from different parts of the country who seem to think wolves  don't attack people, they are shy timid creatures etc.. So you say the people shouldn't need to be told that there have been several human/wolf attacks. I bet WDFW are cheering you on right now, because they sure as hell haven't been honest with the public in that department either.


Why doesn't the USFWS, WDFW report to the public about the wolf attacks where the wolf was shot, investigated and proven to be legit? Or even the reports of wolves following/stalking people in the Okanogan? They wouldn't be trying to hide the many wolf/human conflicts would they? Maybe keep the same BS stories they have told about the wolves being shy creatures in the forefront?

We wouldn't be hearing about this story if it hadn't involved the sheriff office or DNR, it would be like all the others, hidden from the public.

How long would it have taken to get a wolf pack confirmed if there wouldn't have been a 911 call of a wolf pack hanging out at a school buss stop? People had lost stock to the wolves, reported wolves in several different areas, and WDFW ignore all of them, except they couldn't get around the 911 call.

Carry on jack, you'r doing just dandy....

Don’t ever go into the woods alone, man. There’s no telling what wild animal could attack with no warning. Before you know it you’ll be up a tree.

That's not a fair comparison.

Hundreds of people get bitten by chipmunks every year.

[jackelope]

I’ve never been bitten by a chipmunk, but I know it’s possible so I’m on my toes. I keep my wits about me and never let my guard down. Never turn your back on them. They’ll take full advantage at any sign of weakness. Always keep a tree between you and them and you’ll be fine.

[jackelope]

I’ve never been bitten by a chipmunk, but I know it’s possible so I’m on my toes. I keep my wits about me and never let my guard down. Never turn your back on them. They’ll take full advantage at any sign of weakness. Always keep a tree between you and them and you’ll be fine.

Now that I’ve told you all this, you’ll all be safe too. Unless you’re not safe, in which case you didn’t hear they were harmless from me.

[jackelope]

Seriously. Do people really need to be told that wolves are potentially dangerous? Seriously. Someone please respond to this question in a serious manner.
(That’s a whole lot of seriouses)

[DeerHarvester]

Sheriff Rogers (and others) has also deputized USFS and DNR LEOs in his county giving them countywide authority instead of authority just on their agency lands.

It's amazing how many sheriffs portray themselves as "anti-fed" yet work with the feds all the time, including even deputizing them. Sheriff's are politicians, they know what they need to say to get elected.

Not entirely true. Only one USFS LEO is cross commissioned in Okanogan County. This is so USFS can handle incidents on Forrest service campgrounds and such. NO DNR employees are commissioned under sheriff Rogers.


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[DeerHarvester]

We have this FB group. They're a private property rights group but have lots of anti-wolf and anti-government sounding stuff on their FB page. Also at least 1 article about the mountain goat relocation project.
We have the sheriff.
We have the candidate for the head of the DNR position.
We have WDFW
We have USFS
WE have USFWS
Who'd I miss??

The detective, who is running for sheriff because the present one is not running

No detectives are running for Okanogan County Sheriff. All of their info is public record.


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[CAMPMEAT]

Campmeat said, "Sound off bigtex.............and please give statutes etc. in your response."

I suggest you go to YOUR local elected Sheriff and ask him or her that question!

I and others did during the Methow Valley's water war with the state and Feds.   Sheriff Rogers response was "Yes I would have any trespasser on your property's arrested including FBI agents."  "as your elected official I am top dog when it comes to enforcing the law."    As a "elected" official they have the authority and power over any appointed/hired LEO.

Sheriff Rogers (and others) has also deputized USFS and DNR LEOs in his county giving them countywide authority instead of authority just on their agency lands.

It's amazing how many sheriffs portray themselves as "anti-fed" yet work with the feds all the time, including even deputizing them. Sheriff's are politicians, they know what they need to say to get elected.

Not entirely true. Only one USFS LEO is cross commissioned in Okanogan County. This is so USFS can handle incidents on Forrest service campgrounds and such. NO DNR employees are commissioned under sheriff Rogers.


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Which quote are you talking about ?

[Jpmiller]

I’ve never been bitten by a chipmunk, but I know it’s possible so I’m on my toes. I keep my wits about me and never let my guard down. Never turn your back on them. They’ll take full advantage at any sign of weakness. Always keep a tree between you and them and you’ll be fine.

Now that I’ve told you all this, you’ll all be safe too. Unless you’re not safe, in which case you didn’t hear they were harmless from me.

And here I thought the woods were a good place to relax. Thanks for the heads up, won't make that mistake again.

[jackelope]

I’ve never been bitten by a chipmunk, but I know it’s possible so I’m on my toes. I keep my wits about me and never let my guard down. Never turn your back on them. They’ll take full advantage at any sign of weakness. Always keep a tree between you and them and you’ll be fine.

Now that I’ve told you all this, you’ll all be safe too. Unless you’re not safe, in which case you didn’t hear they were harmless from me.

And here I thought the woods were a good place to relax. Thanks for the heads up, won't make that mistake again.

You must be new to the woods. There’s danger around every corner.