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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #45 on: July 17, 2018, 01:47:56 PM »
So raffles, permit apps etc all go to the Wdfw?  Thanks
Yes.

The following lists what goes into the Wildlife Fund: http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=77.12.170

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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #46 on: July 17, 2018, 01:56:01 PM »
Gotcha, thanks for that link.  Prob wouldn’t be a drop in the bucket but seems like the Wdfw should get the revenue from seized property that is sold.  Tough thing to understand why the shortage, it’s definetly not from too many officers in the field.  I’d be willing to pay 10-20 dollars more if it doubled the amount of wildlife police in the field!  Like someone said already, triple the poaching fees and make them stick!! Appoint procecutors that give a damn about fish n game.
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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #47 on: July 17, 2018, 02:02:27 PM »
Gotcha, thanks for that link.  Prob wouldn’t be a drop in the bucket but seems like the Wdfw should get the revenue from seized property that is sold.  Tough thing to understand why the shortage, it’s definetly not from too many officers in the field.  I’d be willing to pay 10-20 dollars more if it doubled the amount of wildlife police in the field!  Like someone said already, triple the poaching fees and make them stick!! Appoint procecutors that give a damn about fish n game.
They get those funds, it goes to the fish and wildlife enforcement reward account which funds the WDFW poaching rewards, some hunter ED things, etc. But your right its a drop in the bucket.

WDFW oversees multiple accounts, the biggest and most important is the Wildlife Account.

Like I've already mentioned, increasing poaching fines wouldn't help the budget issue as they stay within the county budget. To top it off, many people don't like fines going back to the originating agency because they see it as "your just giving me a ticket because your agency wants the $"

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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #48 on: July 17, 2018, 02:08:52 PM »
Makes sense, thanks.
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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #49 on: July 17, 2018, 02:12:40 PM »
casino money?

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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2018, 02:28:26 PM »
casino money?
Even better, relax the rules on non-native casinos to match the tribes rules!! Excellent idea!
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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #51 on: July 17, 2018, 02:49:59 PM »
casino money?
Even better, relax the rules on non-native casinos to match the tribes rules!! Excellent idea!

 Never happen, our Dem. Governors are elbow deep into the Indians pockets.
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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #52 on: July 17, 2018, 02:51:09 PM »
Haven’t read the entire thread so please excuse me if this has been said or asked. I’ve heard your a DNR employee bigtex, but wonder if you know this, how much money does the state take from the Wdfw to put in the general fund?  Seems to me, if the Wdfw could use all the revenue they create, then they would have plenty of funds??
Not a DNR employee.

The state doesn't take WDFW money and put it into the general fund. They used to take fishing fees but that was long ago. 100% of license fees stay within WDFW.

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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #53 on: July 17, 2018, 02:54:37 PM »
Haven’t read the entire thread so please excuse me if this has been said or asked. I’ve heard your a DNR employee bigtex, but wonder if you know this, how much money does the state take from the Wdfw to put in the general fund?  Seems to me, if the Wdfw could use all the revenue they create, then they would have plenty of funds??
Not a DNR employee.

The state doesn't take WDFW money and put it into the general fund. They used to take fishing fees but that was long ago. 100% of license fees stay within WDFW.

Seems to me then it would not be wise to shutdown hatcheries as they have proposed and that they would be wise to market and promote recreational opportunity to generate more revenue.  Have they ever thought of the reverse effect reduce license fees by 10% and you will more then make up for it in sheer numbers of license sold on top of they would start getting some support from the recreational license buyer who is tired of taking it in the shorts

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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #54 on: July 17, 2018, 02:55:33 PM »
casino money?
Even better, relax the rules on non-native casinos to match the tribes rules!! Excellent idea!

 Never happen, our Dem. Governors are elbow deep into the Indians pockets.
or heads too far up their ......
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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #55 on: July 17, 2018, 03:55:57 PM »
casino money?
Even better, relax the rules on non-native casinos to match the tribes rules!! Excellent idea!

 Never happen, our Dem. Governors are elbow deep into the Indians pockets.

He does like his taxes though...... :dunno:

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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #56 on: July 17, 2018, 04:52:22 PM »
Explain to the "Consultant" Idaho offers so much more to its people for less $.  Why is that?  Maybe they can start there and figure out how they need to improve?  This isn't rocket science with fanatical solutions, its common sense.  WDFW has lost many of hunters revenue for many reasons.  Fix the problems, manage animals better etc. and watch the $ increase.  Personally it feels hopeless to expect lib state to be smart. :twocents:
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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #57 on: July 17, 2018, 05:05:56 PM »
Explain to the "Consultant" Idaho offers so much more to its people for less $.  Why is that?  Maybe they can start there and figure out how they need to improve?  This isn't rocket science with fanatical solutions, its common sense.  WDFW has lost many of hunters revenue for many reasons.  Fix the problems, manage animals better etc. and watch the $ increase.  Personally it feels hopeless to expect lib state to be smart. :twocents:
They sell wolf tags,That's why they have more to offer.This state's gov. takes money from antis (wolf,hounds for bears cougars etc)I really am starting to feel that this state is purposely trying to make hunting obsolete in this state.

Olympia has ruined everything good about WDFW in my opinion.They rule the dept. in an anti hunting environment.
 
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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #58 on: July 17, 2018, 05:07:10 PM »
Explain to the "Consultant" Idaho offers so much more to its people for less $.  Why is that?  Maybe they can start there and figure out how they need to improve?  This isn't rocket science with fanatical solutions, its common sense.  WDFW has lost many of hunters revenue for many reasons.  Fix the problems, manage animals better etc. and watch the $ increase.  Personally it feels hopeless to expect lib state to be smart. :twocents:

You mean fire all the predator protecting wolf-lovers employed at WDF&Wolves>CNW, DoW, biologists, conflict specialist, etc, in essence pretty much the whole dam outfit and start over with a "Game Department" instead of a piss poor department.

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Re: WDFW's Plan to Cover 30 Million Dollar Deficit
« Reply #59 on: July 17, 2018, 05:09:44 PM »
The number of permit applications has been going up the past few years, not down.  I think more people talk about not hunting in wa than really do quit.
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