Yakama Nation Sheep Tags

[sled]

  Meatwhack thats not a hypothetical question!!!  You know what would happen, look what happened to the Buffalo.  That question is almost like oh mah asking me if I believe the United States meant to protect all Native treaty's through the Constitution.  The Constitution was signed in 1789 and the Treaty's were signed all post 1850's 

legalized poaching doesn’t count.

[Chiefbigbul]

But anyway, can somebody start talking about Bighorn sheep again???  I was on this sight a 10months ago and you were talking about the same stuff. 

[Romulus1297]

The bighorn are still running up and down the hills around wenatchee. They are hard to find.

[tlbradford]

Just in case Oh Mah needs another opinion on the constitution question, from a white man instead of a tribal member.  No, the constitution does was not written to help tribal members.  They were considered a foreign nation to the U.S government.  Therefore, the rights and privileges granted by the constitution would not apply to tribal members, just like it doesn't apply to illegal immigrants.  Once laws were passed that defined tribal members as US citizens the constitutional rights applied to them.

Back to the sheep - In my opinion, and it is just mine, the tribes need to be partners with WDFW on the establishment, maintenance, and growth of the herds, or they should not have a right to any of the harvest of those animals.  Tribes are taking active rolls in fisheries and for the most part cooperating with WDFW, so why can't they do the same where hunting is concerned. 

[baker5150]

Yes i was taught all of these things, we actually lived our life through the treaty, also we were forced to read the treaty articles along with the treaty notes.  the notes tell a different story, i have actually seen the original treaty in WASHINGTON DC. But do I believe the United States meant to include us- definitely not.  Do I belive we had great chiefs and people that helped negotiate the treaty of 1855, yes I do.  There had to be people at the treaty negotaitions that new this and were on our side.

Are the treaty articles and notes available online for me to read? 
Or do you know where I could find them?

Any takers? 

[Oh Mah]

the treaty:

https://www.fws.gov/pacific/ea/tribal/treaties/Yakima.pdf

[Rainier10]

Fair warning keep it civil.  No cheap shots or jokes about the treaty or what it says.

[Oh Mah]

In case this is of interest:

https://www.ynwildlife.org/tribalhunting.php

[jackelope]

More fair warning. If your posts are not directly related to the tribal sheep permits, don't post it.

[baker5150]

the treaty:

https://www.fws.gov/pacific/ea/tribal/treaties/Yakima.pdf

Ive read the treaty, I’m looking for the notes and minutes.

[Bob33]

TO REITERATE:

More fair warning. If your posts are not directly related to the tribal sheep permits, don't post it.

[jackelope]

Super fair warning. Ultra fair..........
It really doesn't get much more fairer.

[meatwhack]

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[trophyhunt]

Has anyone called or seen any comments from the Wdfw on these new sheep tags?

[idahohuntr]

Is the concern that 2 additional sheep tags in the swakane will put the herd at great risk?  Or is the concern that trophy quality might slip, or someone who paid big money for a tag might have a little more competition?  The only reason wdfw should get involved is if it's a legitimate risk to the herd.

On the bright side, maybe these tribal tags will drive auction tag prices down so low wdfw will stop selling wildlife to the high bidder.