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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #315 on: August 27, 2018, 12:36:10 PM »
ewe tags are all on the reservation, idk the last time somebody has even seen that heard.  lol.  Nobody shoots them i know that.
I don't think either Time or Whitefoot said where their tags were good for, they just said that they each had one, Time a ram tag and Whitefoot a ewe tag I believe.  It's farther back at the beginning of this thread.

So do you have the swakane tag?

If so you should have no problem filling the tag.  There are a few really big sheep in there and a bunch of big sheep in there.  I personally would be happy with a big sheep and since I am not a sheep guy I am not sure I would be able to tell if one was really big or just big if it was alone on the hillside.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #316 on: August 27, 2018, 12:36:45 PM »
Okay Jackelope, What if I said I had the SWAKANE TAG and am willing to compensate you to find me the biggest bighorn on Swakane Canyon what would you say?

Negative, sir. This isn't about money for me.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #317 on: August 27, 2018, 12:39:35 PM »
Over harvest, No.  I would be willing to bet a lot of money on that.  The elk on the rez are so damn smart, People get them, but you best believe those big boys live a full life.  Unless your willing to slap your kenetrek boots on and hit some canyons. 
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #318 on: August 27, 2018, 12:41:18 PM »
I don't have the TAG but was interested to know.  I would help anybody who asked me, because they will never get the opportunity again.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #319 on: August 27, 2018, 12:48:14 PM »
I might sing a different tune if there was some teamwork between the tribe and the state. That would show us that both sides care about the herd. The way this whole thing went down makes me think that wasn't taken into consideration at all, and the only deciding factor to this hunt was because you can, and that seems greedy to me. It would have been better to go to the state and say hey...we'd like a couple sheep tags... and open a line of communication. Maybe hypothetically you guys and the state work together and agree that you guys have 1 tag and the state will drop their tag # from 2 to 1. That would be nice and probably mutually agreeable to at least some degree, and it would be a measure of good faith from both sides as well. But that didn't happen and now there's more resentment towards the Yakama tribe.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #320 on: August 27, 2018, 12:50:48 PM »
I don't have the TAG but was interested to know.  I would help anybody who asked me, because they will never get the opportunity again.

It the tribe issued tag an OIL tag?

Plat said he has filled it more than once.

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #321 on: August 27, 2018, 12:52:38 PM »
 Jackelope has asked a lot of good questions that several of us would like to hear the answers to. I didn't see any questions that should have been taken as accusations. :twocents:
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #322 on: August 27, 2018, 12:53:23 PM »
answered by plat early in thread. No not an oil tag.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #323 on: August 27, 2018, 12:54:04 PM »
I don't have the TAG but was interested to know.  I would help anybody who asked me, because they will never get the opportunity again.

It the tribe issued tag an OIL tag?

Plat said he has filled it more than once.

 Another great question.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #324 on: August 27, 2018, 12:54:33 PM »
It used to be every 5 years but 2 years ago it dropped to 3 yrs. Success rates are low and I've been fortunate to draw twice in last decade.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #325 on: August 27, 2018, 12:55:19 PM »
I don't have the TAG but was interested to know.  I would help anybody who asked me, because they will never get the opportunity again.

It the tribe issued tag an OIL tag?

Plat said he has filled it more than once.

They can apply every 3 years. It's posted in the opening thread on the flyer.

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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #326 on: August 27, 2018, 01:06:59 PM »
Ya, well you helping a Native with zero resentment would have been a great start and maybe that Native had a lot of family and could have helped you come to your conclusion with tribal counsel.  But obviously your a person who only wants things his way and you only see it your way, like I stated before why would the Yakama Nation ever work with the State of Washington?  We are their scapegoat to mismanage funds in their government, then people jump on forums and believe the stuff.  And your state game department cares?  They sold 93,167 elk tags just during General Season state wide.  Thats crazy!  with a 7.8% success rate, thats more animals that the Yakama will take in 8-10years.  It's amazing the amount of shame you send our way, and thats with zero poaching rates included.  So really instead of being part of the answer you would choose to keep blaming us?  or our management of animals.  Don't really know what to tell you sir.   
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #327 on: August 27, 2018, 01:08:46 PM »
I've applied 7years and still haven't got one.  In any unit.  can hunt an ewe on the rez.
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #328 on: August 27, 2018, 01:11:17 PM »
Ya, well you helping a Native with zero resentment would have been a great start and maybe that Native had a lot of family and could have helped you come to your conclusion with tribal counsel.  But obviously your a person who only wants things his way and you only see it your way, like I stated before why would the Yakama Nation ever work with the State of Washington?  We are their scapegoat to mismanage funds in their government, then people jump on forums and believe the stuff.  And your state game department cares?  They sold 93,167 elk tags just during General Season state wide.  Thats crazy!  with a 7.8% success rate, thats more animals that the Yakama will take in 8-10years.  It's amazing the amount of shame you send our way, and thats with zero poaching rates included.  So really instead of being part of the answer you would choose to keep blaming us?  or our management of animals.  Don't really know what to tell you sir.

You are serious?  :DOH:
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Re: Yakama Nation Sheep Tags
« Reply #329 on: August 27, 2018, 01:24:27 PM »
Ya, well you helping a Native with zero resentment would have been a great start and maybe that Native had a lot of family and could have helped you come to your conclusion with tribal counsel.  But obviously your a person who only wants things his way and you only see it your way, like I stated before why would the Yakama Nation ever work with the State of Washington?  We are their scapegoat to mismanage funds in their government, then people jump on forums and believe the stuff.  And your state game department cares?  They sold 93,167 elk tags just during General Season state wide.  Thats crazy!  with a 7.8% success rate, thats more animals that the Yakama will take in 8-10years.  It's amazing the amount of shame you send our way, and thats with zero poaching rates included.  So really instead of being part of the answer you would choose to keep blaming us?  or our management of animals.  Don't really know what to tell you sir.   

Wow. Not the kind of response I was expecting. I think you either totally missed what I was trying to say or maybe you read it wrong or something. No shame was intended. My thought process was that maybe the tribe would care enough about sheep to consider the herds and not just what comes across as the tribe not giving a crap about the herd.

Please explain how me helping a tribal hunter find a ram to shoot would be a step towards anything changing in the tribe?

I'm not thinking about me at all, hence the suggestion/idea that the state would drop their tag numbers to accommodate for your tribal tags if you had offered up any collaboration. I'd love to kill a sheep some day.
I've applied 7years and still haven't got one.  In any unit.  can hunt an ewe on the rez.
I'm at 10 years and no tag and I can't just go shoot a ewe anywhere. I wouldn't do that though either, because I don't agree that it's good for the herd unless there's an overpopulation issue somewhere. With all the sheep flu issues and other wild sheep health issues there have been in the past, I'll commit to leaving the ewes alone.



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