Quality Elk Applicants in 2018

[W_Ellison2011]

I started applying for antlerless moose this year so your welcome lol!

[BuckSnort18]

Took me 22 years to get my quality elk archery permit this year. Paid off. Can't seem to post a picture though. Met two other permit holders. One had 12 points, the other 3. Not right getting quality with 3 points. 7 permits given out.

[MonstroMuley]

Took me 22 years to get my quality elk archery permit this year. Paid off. ... Met two other permit holders. One had 12 points, the other 3. Not right getting quality with 3 points. 7 permits given out.

That's "Randomness" for Ya ... 12 point holders have more tickets in the lottery [higher opportunity for selection] and 3 point holders (obviously) fewer lottery tickets) [lower selection opportunity] ... long shot for the 3 point holders, but occasionally, even long shots win ... they still gotta chance ... random roll of the dice.

How does the special permit drawing work?
https://wdfw.wa.gov/help/questions/214/How+does+the+special+permit+drawing+work%3F+I+heard+you+square+points.+Does+that+improve+my+drawing+odds%3F

[BuckSnort18]

 I fully understand how the permit point system works. Thankful I was drawn at all. There are a few hunters still out there with 30+ points. Feeling for them when other hunters may be drawn 3 times before they get a chance for the experience, if at all. There could be some changes.

[jstone]

Crap. 22 years for an archery permit. I had one in 12 years ago. So I have 12 points. Archery OMG

[bobcat]

I fully understand how the permit point system works. Thankful I was drawn at all. There are a few hunters still out there with 30+ points. Feeling for them when other hunters may be drawn 3 times before they get a chance for the experience, if at all. There could be some changes.

If someone has 30 points it's not because they've been waiting 30 years. It's because they got points for turning in a poacher.

[BuckSnort18]

Possibly. Would be interesting to find out. 10 points for a poacher still means trying as long as I did.

[kentrek]

What if they cubed our points instead of squared   

But seriously 

[270Flat]

Will be many others that get chewed up by the blues next year!!😂😂😂

I think 31,000 is roughly the number of applications that Mountain View will have next year...

That’s a train I won’t be jumping on. 

That place chewed me up and spit me out a few years ago and I don’t need a repeat. 

[OltHunter]

That’s the deal...if applications are increasing everywhere, shouldn’t they be decreasing somewhere else?

Yes, but I'm starting to question the data now from WDFW for 2018. 

It looks like total applications were 42,459 in 2017 and 84,468 in 2018.  Since people can put in for 2 hunts, i would expect to see around 50,000 total applications, with i'm sure people putting in for only 1 unit, would make it seem like 2017 is accurate and 2018 is close to doubled somehow. 

I wonder if it will get revised at all.

Here's are some of the biggest jumps I see:

Couse (2063): 1,277 - 35
Teanaway (2020): 3,437 - 618
Ten Ten (2006): 1,388 - 107

Do we really believe Teanaway had the second highest overall applications in Quality Elk in 2018???
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/results.php?Species=ELK

[Johnny Doe]

That’s the deal...if applications are increasing everywhere, shouldn’t they be decreasing somewhere else?

Yes, but I'm starting to question the data now from WDFW for 2018. 

It looks like total applications were 42,459 in 2017 and 84,468 in 2018.  Since people can put in for 2 hunts, i would expect to see around 50,000 total applications, with i'm sure people putting in for only 1 unit, would make it seem like 2017 is accurate and 2018 is close to doubled somehow. 

I wonder if it will get revised at all.

Here's are some of the biggest jumps I see:

Couse (2063): 1,277 - 35
Teanaway (2020): 3,437 - 618
Ten Ten (2006): 1,388 - 107

Do we really believe Teanaway had the second highest overall applications in Quality Elk in 2018???
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/results.php?Species=ELK

     Whats the deal WDFW?

[Johnny Doe]

I checked to see if by chance in the past they only posted 1st choice selections...nope both choices are listed for overall applications/applicants.

Interesting thing the top point guy in the Quality Elk category went from 34 to 45pts and I believe is the same guy (he put in for the same hunts both year)...Dude caught another hunter in 2017 to go from 34 to 45pts!!! WTH I want to go poacher hunting with that guy! 

[Euro mount]

So I have a thought on this and it might be off but what is they are putting out the number of total points of each applicant so say I put in for a hunt having 9 points they counted me as 9 not 1 ? Just a thought but I thought there numbers where off

[throwingsticks]

I think 31,000 is roughly the number of applications that Mountain View will have next year...

Because of meat eater?

[Johnny Doe]

A late update on this...I sent an email to WDFW back on Oct 15th t asking what the issue was with the posted draw result summaries for 2018 and if it could be corrected?


Hi there,

I have recently been looking at individual hunts on the 2018 Special Permit Drawing Results and in comparison to past years it seems that the number of applications/applicants greatly increased for nearly every individual hunt that I have looked at??  Is there some simple math error going on? Database issue??

 
https://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/
Special Hunt Permit Drawing Results | Washington ...

 Examples: Quality Elk Hunt Choice 2055 -Ten Ten -  47 applicants in 2017 vs 408 applicants in 2018

                   Antlered Moose Choice 8000- Kettle Range - 4,305 applicants in 2017 vs 8,919 applicants in 2018

Any explanation would be great!

Thank you!