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I-1639 mega thread
« on: November 05, 2018, 03:09:07 PM »
I know this is a political section (don't know if this has been a topic in this section), but this is a major political topic IMO in this state. If you are really serious about gun ownership and the use of firearms for self defense make sure to send out your ballots today and VOTE NO 1639.

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Re: WA-1639 Initiative
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2018, 05:06:09 PM »
 :yeah: :tup:

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I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2018, 11:33:08 AM »
Any info on the details of the requirements if this passes.  Do those cheap stack-on cabinets count as safe storage.  Also wondering about how the mandatory training will work, Who gets to determine what that is.  Gotta admire the balls to try and pass a law restricting rights and then having the people it affects pay out of pocket.   
 At least we’ll all be safe 🙄


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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2018, 11:36:46 AM »
We all had a hunter eduaction course, correct? Should be good enough. If this passes there will be very many not complying with all the requirements, and much confusion as to exactly what those requirements are.   :bash:

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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2018, 12:25:23 PM »
It's totally racist and discriminatory.
The media told me that poor people and minorities are way too stupid to figure out how to get a state issued id in order to vote, so how in the heck are they going to figure this mess out?
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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2018, 12:29:55 PM »
Any info on the details of the requirements if this passes.  Do those cheap stack-on cabinets count as safe storage.
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Deductive reasoning. If someone gets a firearm from somewhere in your house and shoots someone he wasn't supposed to, it obviously wasn't safe storage. :bash:
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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2018, 12:33:07 PM »
Any info on the details of the requirements if this passes.  Do those cheap stack-on cabinets count as safe storage.
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Deductive reasoning. If someone gets a firearm from somewhere in your house and shoots someone he wasn't supposed to, it obviously wasn't safe storage. :bash:
When the left supports blaming victims.....

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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2018, 12:33:33 PM »
I really attempted to read and understand everything in the voters pamphlet on this. Didn't make a lot of sense to me and was confusing as hell. Seems to me that there was a lot of "To Be Determined" stuff in there ? Left me wondering what the true impact will be if this gets passed.
Mandatory training every 5 years ? How much will that cost to be allowed permission to own a firearm ?
And they don't even have a designation of what safe storage is. so I guess it's at their discretion at the time they want to check to see if you are in compliance ? And I do foresee a time when checks will be made.

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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2018, 12:43:04 PM »
It’s definitely complicated.  I’m hoping it won’t pass, and if it does will be declared unconstitutional.
If 940 passes WDFW will have to pay for it.
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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2018, 01:07:04 PM »
I understand that some want more gun laws but when they write theses at least address these big questions as to where this will lead.  Tell the voting public how much this will cost and how exactly they will avoid breaking the law.  Asking me to pay a “fee” for a right I already have really gets me.  I can’t imagine this not being overturned as unconstitutional.  And where’s the NRA on this.
Perhaps there’ll be a tax right off for firearm safety related expenses somewhere in the future. Who knows, maybe they’ll tax everyone to provide funds for a 1000$ voucher for a new safe. 


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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2018, 07:10:17 PM »
Putting on my tin foil hat: If they underfund it, well that will create a backlog and hey, sorry about that you'll just have to wait until we have funding for those mandatory classes.
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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2018, 07:11:24 PM »
Who is going to interpret what it means?  We haven't figured out what the last one means yet, I think a grand total of two guys have been charged or something like that.

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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2018, 07:16:37 PM »
I have decided that I am going to take a page out of Seattle's playbook. I have decided to declare my home a "Sanctuary Home" and the laws of Washington state don't apply there and cannot be enforced. They created the precedence. Should be able to use that in my defense.
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Re: I-1639 mega thread
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2018, 07:41:54 PM »
My take on this is that at the end of the day it is just another law on the books for the prosecutor for post-incident purposes in court.  Fire a barrage of un-constitutional laws at the victim's family, the case to the supreme court as a landmark case permanently embarrassing the State of Washington.

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Re: WA-1639 Initiative
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2018, 08:23:14 PM »
It’s going to pass.😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤

It’s going to create a lot of criminals. :bash:
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