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SB 5099 sponsored by Senators Sheldon, Fortunato, Schoesler, and Wagoner would require DNR to establish target shooting areas on DNR lands.

There is no requirement in the bill as to how many areas need to be designated other than at least one site needs to be on the Tahuya State Forest in Mason County and one site in Skagit County.

http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2019-20/Pdf/Bills/Senate%20Bills/5099.pdf

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They should be able to get them built with Pittman Robinson money...

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At a glance i say no.
Is this another way to limit shooters of this state from being able to target shoot?A way to fallow Oregon on their 20 rounds per month idea.

For instance they make target shooting areas the only areas that you are allowed to target shoot,Then they limit the number of shooters allowed to shoot at a given time,Wait in line for shooters that have no time limit for shooting.

I WISH FOR EVERYONE TO VOTE N ON ANY NEW GUN RULES AT ALL.It's only a wish and i am nobody but that would be nice in my point of view.No more limits on the outdoors men.  :twocents:
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I read it but I'm still not tracking? Is it saying you can only shoot where they tell you to shoot? Or is it just saying they will set up areas specifically for shooting like they do with campgrounds and horse parks?

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I read it but I'm still not tracking? Is it saying you can only shoot where they tell you to shoot? Or is it just saying they will set up areas specifically for shooting like they do with campgrounds and horse parks?
They will setup areas specifically for shooting.

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At a glance i say no.
Is this another way to limit shooters of this state from being able to target shoot?A way to fallow Oregon on their 20 rounds per month idea.

For instance they make target shooting areas the only areas that you are allowed to target shoot,Then they limit the number of shooters allowed to shoot at a given time,Wait in line for shooters that have no time limit for shooting.

I WISH FOR EVERYONE TO VOTE N ON ANY NEW GUN RULES AT ALL.It's only a wish and i am nobody but that would be nice in my point of view.No more limits on the outdoors men.  :twocents:
It's completely opposite of what your saying. There's pressure in many areas for DNR to close target shooting on DNR lands. This would require DNR to set up areas where people can shoot. The reason the bill requires two areas to be in Mason and Skagit County is because there is pressure in those areas to close target shooting on DNR lands all together.

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I don't have the words to reply.We are always being pushed out,Why can't the people (groups like WDFW,DNR LANDS,etc)we finance get behind us for once?
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(this is in reference to the biggie not me).

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There’s a bunch of DNR land by me, none of which is open to shooting mostly because slobs with guns couldn’t clean up after themselves. If this means more land would be open to shooting, where do I sign?

Side note. I think some people just jump to this being bad. Not sure that’s the case here. Slow down and read.
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There’s a bunch of DNR land by me, none of which is open to shooting mostly because slobs with guns couldn’t clean up after themselves. If this means more land would be open to shooting, where do I sign?

Side note. I think some people just jump to this being bad. Not sure that’s the case here. Slow down and read.
:yeah:

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There’s a bunch of DNR land by me, none of which is open to shooting mostly because slobs with guns couldn’t clean up after themselves. If this means more land would be open to shooting, where do I sign?



Side note. I think some people just jump to this being bad. Not sure that’s the case here. Slow down and read.
  spot on.  I get shut down in April anymore and have to drive almost an hour for a good spot on NF.  Although if it's an unmanaged/unstaffed range in Yakima then I think I'll pass.  There's a reason I havent shot out sheep company in 16 years lol
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Re: SB 5099 Would Require DNR to Establish Target Shooting Areas on DNR Lands
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2019, 09:50:39 PM »
There’s a bunch of DNR land by me, none of which is open to shooting mostly because slobs with guns couldn’t clean up after themselves. If this means more land would be open to shooting, where do I sign?

Side note. I think some people just jump to this being bad. Not sure that’s the case here. Slow down and read.
:yeah:

Seems like a good idea to me.

PITTMAN-ROBERTSON FUNDS

In 1937, the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act , also known as the Pittman-Robertson Act, authorized that excise tax revenue from the sale of firearms and ammunition products be apportioned to State Fish and Game Agencies on a variety of projects related to wildlife, conservation efforts and shooting programs. Since the program’s inception, over $10.1 billion has been collected and awarded to states.

 



The distribution of funds includes a requirement that $8,000,000 per year must be used for Enhanced Hunter Education programs, including the construction, operation, and maintenance of public target ranges. States can use these funds to pay up to 75% of the costs with the other 25% derived from other sources, but not from other Federal grant programs.


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Re: SB 5099 Would Require DNR to Establish Target Shooting Areas on DNR Lands
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2019, 09:55:19 PM »
There’s a bunch of DNR land by me, none of which is open to shooting mostly because slobs with guns couldn’t clean up after themselves. If this means more land would be open to shooting, where do I sign?

Side note. I think some people just jump to this being bad. Not sure that’s the case here. Slow down and read.
:yeah:

Seems like a good idea to me.

PITTMAN-ROBERTSON FUNDS

In 1937, the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act , also known as the Pittman-Robertson Act, authorized that excise tax revenue from the sale of firearms and ammunition products be apportioned to State Fish and Game Agencies on a variety of projects related to wildlife, conservation efforts and shooting programs. Since the program’s inception, over $10.1 billion has been collected and awarded to states.

The distribution of funds includes a requirement that $8,000,000 per year must be used for Enhanced Hunter Education programs, including the construction, operation, and maintenance of public target ranges. States can use these funds to pay up to 75% of the costs with the other 25% derived from other sources, but not from other Federal grant programs.
Only issue is PR goes to state fish & wildlife agencies. DNR is not a state fish and wildlife agency. WDFW gets the PR money in WA.

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Re: SB 5099 Would Require DNR to Establish Target Shooting Areas on DNR Lands
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2019, 10:12:25 PM »
There’s a bunch of DNR land by me, none of which is open to shooting mostly because slobs with guns couldn’t clean up after themselves. If this means more land would be open to shooting, where do I sign?

Side note. I think some people just jump to this being bad. Not sure that’s the case here. Slow down and read.
:yeah:

Seems like a good idea to me.

PITTMAN-ROBERTSON FUNDS

In 1937, the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act , also known as the Pittman-Robertson Act, authorized that excise tax revenue from the sale of firearms and ammunition products be apportioned to State Fish and Game Agencies on a variety of projects related to wildlife, conservation efforts and shooting programs. Since the program’s inception, over $10.1 billion has been collected and awarded to states.

The distribution of funds includes a requirement that $8,000,000 per year must be used for Enhanced Hunter Education programs, including the construction, operation, and maintenance of public target ranges. States can use these funds to pay up to 75% of the costs with the other 25% derived from other sources, but not from other Federal grant programs.
Only issue is PR goes to state fish & wildlife agencies. DNR is not a state fish and wildlife agency. WDFW gets the PR money in WA.

Collaborate between the two state agencies?

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Re: SB 5099 Would Require DNR to Establish Target Shooting Areas on DNR Lands
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2019, 10:17:17 PM »
There’s a bunch of DNR land by me, none of which is open to shooting mostly because slobs with guns couldn’t clean up after themselves. If this means more land would be open to shooting, where do I sign?

Side note. I think some people just jump to this being bad. Not sure that’s the case here. Slow down and read.
:yeah:

Seems like a good idea to me.

PITTMAN-ROBERTSON FUNDS

In 1937, the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act , also known as the Pittman-Robertson Act, authorized that excise tax revenue from the sale of firearms and ammunition products be apportioned to State Fish and Game Agencies on a variety of projects related to wildlife, conservation efforts and shooting programs. Since the program’s inception, over $10.1 billion has been collected and awarded to states.

The distribution of funds includes a requirement that $8,000,000 per year must be used for Enhanced Hunter Education programs, including the construction, operation, and maintenance of public target ranges. States can use these funds to pay up to 75% of the costs with the other 25% derived from other sources, but not from other Federal grant programs.
Only issue is PR goes to state fish & wildlife agencies. DNR is not a state fish and wildlife agency. WDFW gets the PR money in WA.
Collaborate between the two state agencies?
Would have to be in the law. My guess is there's also something in the federal law prohibiting state agencies from giving the money to another state agency.

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Re: SB 5099 Would Require DNR to Establish Target Shooting Areas on DNR Lands
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2019, 10:39:17 PM »
I read it but I'm still not tracking? Is it saying you can only shoot where they tell you to shoot? Or is it just saying they will set up areas specifically for shooting like they do with campgrounds and horse parks?
They will setup areas specifically for shooting.
Probably should add to bigtex’s comments that they are more than likely setting up areas to shoot that are not currently open at all to shoot.


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