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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2019, 07:47:15 PM »
That Central Ferry land buy would be really great.  That whole area is getting planted into orchard- it will be good to get it set aside and opened up for hunting


I wonder will WDF&Wolves predator fence these new "WILDLIFE ACQUISITIONS"? Because if they don't the uncontrolled predators will take care of any hunting that might have been "set aside".
Ya the way these wolf people are.There won't be any hunting in about ten years.so I agree.

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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2019, 08:33:24 PM »
That Central Ferry land buy would be really great.  That whole area is getting planted into orchard- it will be good to get it set aside and opened up for hunting

 :yeah: lots of once prime winter habitat turned now into fenced orchard. This would be a small but positive purchase.
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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2019, 09:13:34 PM »
That Central Ferry land buy would be really great.  That whole area is getting planted into orchard- it will be good to get it set aside and opened up for hunting


I wonder will WDF&Wolves predator fence these new "WILDLIFE ACQUISITIONS"? Because if they don't the uncontrolled predators will take care of any hunting that might have been "set aside".
Ya the way these wolf people are.There won't be any hunting in about ten years.so I agree.
You are wildly uninformed if you believe wolves will end hunting in 10 years...or ever. 

We can just put this next to wolfbaits post proclaiming there would be no elk hunting in idaho by 2012 because of wolves.  :chuckle:
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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2019, 09:59:17 PM »
That Central Ferry land buy would be really great.  That whole area is getting planted into orchard- it will be good to get it set aside and opened up for hunting


I wonder will WDF&Wolves predator fence these new "WILDLIFE ACQUISITIONS"? Because if they don't the uncontrolled predators will take care of any hunting that might have been "set aside".
Ya the way these wolf people are.There won't be any hunting in about ten years.so I agree.
You are wildly uninformed if you believe wolves will end hunting in 10 years...or ever. 

We can just put this next to wolfbaits post proclaiming there would be no elk hunting in idaho by 2012 because of wolves.  :chuckle:

Just drastically reduced or in some areas eliminated tags but nothing to see here as always....

Sometimes its a stretch or to focused on wolves but someone needs keep all predator issues front and center so others can't just dismiss it...
« Last Edit: February 09, 2019, 07:23:44 AM by mfswallace »

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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2019, 11:56:39 PM »
This forum needs rules to restrict criticism of wolves. Too many pro-wolfers are getting offended.

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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2019, 06:44:00 AM »
This forum needs rules to restrict criticism of wolves. Too many pro-wolfers are getting offended.
not offended and not pro wolf but cool story.  Just beyond annoyed by wolfbait.  EVERY is about wolves.  Wdfw could plant trout for a youth fishing day and had find a way to make it something negative and related to wolves.  It's just old.  Click bait is annoying regardless of subject.  I refuse to accept that if you dont HATE all things wolf and wdfw that you are a wolf lover.  That's the most narrow sighted and ignorant way to approach any topic and it immediately turns people off to your point of view and ends any useful conversation.
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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2019, 07:23:28 AM »
When hunting is your life’s passion and heritage  and something destroys it in your family’s legacy area you may adopt a cause to fight that evil.   Can’t fault the passion. 

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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2019, 08:18:22 AM »
Wolf issues should be discussed in the context of management (or lack thereof)...labeling wolves as evil or horrible is just silly.  They are a wild animal...not some vile enemy out to destroy America.  Same with these pro-wolf/wolf lover labels being applied to hunters...absolutely ridiculous.   

 
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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2019, 08:32:18 AM »
Wolf issues should be discussed in the context of management (or lack thereof)...labeling wolves as evil or horrible is just silly.  They are a wild animal...not some vile enemy out to destroy America.  Same with these pro-wolf/wolf lover labels being applied to hunters...absolutely ridiculous.   



The leftist controlled WDFW is out to destroy Washington State hunting and the vile democrats are enemies out to destroy America..... :tup:
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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2019, 08:43:39 AM »
That Central Ferry land buy would be really great.  That whole area is getting planted into orchard- it will be good to get it set aside and opened up for hunting


I wonder will WDF&Wolves predator fence these new "WILDLIFE ACQUISITIONS"? Because if they don't the uncontrolled predators will take care of any hunting that might have been "set aside".
Ya the way these wolf people are.There won't be any hunting in about ten years.so I agree.
You are wildly uninformed if you believe wolves will end hunting in 10 years...or ever. 

We can just put this next to wolfbaits post proclaiming there would be no elk hunting in idaho by 2012 because of wolves.  :chuckle:
I didn't say wolves themselves will end hunting .
It's the environmental groups ,political groups,and just plain anti hunting groups that will.we have a lot of groups of people against hunting right now .And some how you think it's gonna get better in ten years.

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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2019, 08:48:15 AM »
When hunting is your life’s passion and heritage  and something destroys it in your family’s legacy area you may adopt a cause to fight that evil.   Can’t fault the passion.

I agree. I think it's great people are passionate. But you have to approach management issues in a way that doesn't lose your audience.  Also, if people redirected a quarter of the anger aimed at wolves to issues like development of winter range, lack of appropriate forest management in the East Cascades and Blues, energy development, and the never-ending push to divest our public lands, I think we would be in a better place. The single-minded focus on wolves is more about our prejudices as a species, and less about the whole range of management issues. And disclaimer: I do think predator management is important. It's just not the only thing!!!

And last, back the point of the thread, awesome on the land purchase.  Public land, public hunting. 
« Last Edit: February 09, 2019, 09:18:13 AM by elkboy »

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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2019, 10:27:57 AM »
As mentioned it’s not just the wolves but the combination of anti hunting groups like conservation NW, Sierra club, PETA etc that are actively getting predator hunting seasons and areas shut down so there is no management of expanding predator populations. Mule deer moose and elk herds are already stressed enough. USFW and WDFW continue to lie about predator numbers and deer and elk numbers.

It’s easy to deride this as anti wolf hysteria but a logical examination of all facts indicates there is a justifiable concern on the behalf of sportsmen.


That Central Ferry land buy would be really great.  That whole area is getting planted into orchard- it will be good to get it set aside and opened up for hunting


I wonder will WDF&Wolves predator fence these new "WILDLIFE ACQUISITIONS"? Because if they don't the uncontrolled predators will take care of any hunting that might have been "set aside".
Ya the way these wolf people are.There won't be any hunting in about ten years.so I agree.
You are wildly uninformed if you believe wolves will end hunting in 10 years...or ever. 

We can just put this next to wolfbaits post proclaiming there would be no elk hunting in idaho by 2012 because of wolves.  :chuckle:

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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2019, 10:48:26 AM »
As mentioned it’s not just the wolves but the combination of anti hunting groups like conservation NW, Sierra club, PETA etc that are actively getting predator hunting seasons and areas shut down so there is no management of expanding predator populations. Mule deer moose and elk herds are already stressed enough. USFW and WDFW continue to lie about predator numbers and deer and elk numbers.

It’s easy to deride this as anti wolf hysteria but a logical examination of all facts indicates there is a justifiable concern on the behalf of sportsmen.


That Central Ferry land buy would be really great.  That whole area is getting planted into orchard- it will be good to get it set aside and opened up for hunting


I wonder will WDF&Wolves predator fence these new "WILDLIFE ACQUISITIONS"? Because if they don't the uncontrolled predators will take care of any hunting that might have been "set aside".
Ya the way these wolf people are.There won't be any hunting in about ten years.so I agree.
You are wildly uninformed if you believe wolves will end hunting in 10 years...or ever. 

We can just put this next to wolfbaits post proclaiming there would be no elk hunting in idaho by 2012 because of wolves.  :chuckle:
  ok but claiming wdfw is acquiring additional public land soley for the sake of wolves is dumb and agenda driven by the OP. Its clickbait and fake news. 
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Re: WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2019, 11:41:18 AM »
That Central Ferry land buy would be really great.  That whole area is getting planted into orchard- it will be good to get it set aside and opened up for hunting


I wonder will WDF&Wolves predator fence these new "WILDLIFE ACQUISITIONS"? Because if they don't the uncontrolled predators will take care of any hunting that might have been "set aside".
Ya the way these wolf people are.There won't be any hunting in about ten years.so I agree.
You are wildly uninformed if you believe wolves will end hunting in 10 years...or ever. 

We can just put this next to wolfbaits post proclaiming there would be no elk hunting in idaho by 2012 because of wolves.  :chuckle:
I didn't say wolves themselves will end hunting .
It's the environmental groups ,political groups,and just plain anti hunting groups that will.we have a lot of groups of people against hunting right now .And some how you think it's gonna get better in ten years.
Good clarification...because wolves and predators will not be the demise of hunting.  I agree that politics, anti-hunters, etc. are a more substantive threat to the future of hunting.  In WA state I think its important to make certain hunters have the reputation of being respectful, well informed folks who are sincere about conservation of all wildlife.  If we allow the extremists to be the image of hunters...the middle 80% of the population that votes will not be kind to us.  You look at how these gun law initiatives go in this state - and it scares the hell out of me what a PETA might try and get on the ballot...and if our image is portrayed as a bunch of hillbillies who want to poison, trap, and kill every wolf in the state simply so we can shoot more of bambi's dad...we don't stand even a small chance.

This is why I think it's important to call out BS pushed by really extreme folks regarding wolves and other predators.  Let the other side be known for their ridiculous tree spiking extremist views...we can't afford to have a hint of that image among our ranks - not in this state anyways.  :twocents:
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WDFW Buying More Wolf Habitat
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2019, 12:21:14 PM »
Predators won’t end hunting. If we keep going with our predator populations it will put a serious dent in hunter success. I won’t deny that. I think wolves will play a part in that moving forward. Not as big a part as cougars and coyotes and over-hunting do for a long time anyway. We’ll still be able to hunt. We just won’t have anything to shoot.
Anti-hunters, division among hunters, politics, a lack of support for the org’s that are working to promote and support hunting...those are the concerns we need to focus more of our time on in order to preserve our pastime moving forward.
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