Giving Utah our sheep

[BULLBLASTER]

Assuming a good portion of the relocated sheep were ewes and lambs I personally would rather see those ones transferred to another herd to help somewhere than shot here. 

[Bob33]

Nevada gave us a couple hundred antelope.


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Nevada game the Yamaka Nation the antelope,  not "us".

"us" can go see antelope today in plenty of places not on a reservation, and possibly will be able to hunt some in the future.

[MtnMuley]

Nevada gave us a couple hundred antelope.


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Nevada game the Yamaka Nation the antelope,  not "us".

"us" can go see antelope today in plenty of places not on a reservation

What does that have anything to with my quote?

[boneaddict]

I wasn’t super happy when they captured a bunch of them and moved them to the Colville and now they are successfully hunting them.   I’d just have assumed to have drawn Clemans myself.  I suppose that’s selfish.  Lol

[huntnphool]

While I agree with interstate exchange of game animals, it seems to me that if the herd is that robust that the state could have opened up some more hunting opportunities before shipping critters off.  Especially one of the top herds of California Bighorns in the state.

 How many rams tagged each year do you think it can sustain?

 There are two draw tags, and couple raffle tags now.

[MtnMuley]

While I agree with interstate exchange of game animals, it seems to me that if the herd is that robust that the state could have opened up some more hunting opportunities before shipping critters off.  Especially one of the top herds of California Bighorns in the state.

 There are two draw tags, and couple raffle tags now.

4 draw tags as of last year (2 normal, 2 later) unless it's changed, along with a couple juvenile ram disabled hunter tags and a couple raffle tags.

[jackelope]

Without looking at the reg's the Butte has got to be one of the most hunted sheep units in the state, isn't it?

[huntnphool]

Without looking at the reg's the Butte has got to be one of the most hunted sheep units in the state, isn't it?

 Turning into another Clemens...SMH

[bobcat]

Some info in here:

https://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2018/03/mar_1518_18_summary.pdf

[MtnMuley]

Some info in here:

https://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2018/03/mar_1518_18_summary.pdf

They say in the summary on page 1 that there is no herd at the moment to where animals can be translocated, so they recommend a female only ewe-season.  They later go on to say they hope to have a tag available for the Sinlahekin herd in the near future.  Apparently I'm out of line for thinking that they could surely translocate some sheep to the Sinlahekin unit to sustain numbers capable of having a tag available again...…...but it's okay to send 20 to Utah?  I'm really confused.

[emac]

http://nwsportsmanmag.com/a-wildlife-mystery-in-the-sinlahekin-whered-the-bighorn-herd-go/

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Is there any update on this story since it was about 6 years ago

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[ramslam]

As Doublelung mentioned, Washington has relied heavily on transplants from other states and provinces.  A quick look through the spreadsheet I have shows a minimum of 29 different transplants into Washington from Montana, Oregon, British Columbia, Alberta and Nevada.   True, none have come from Utah but I see no problem in paying it forward.  There's been only a few going out of state. 

Sadly, because of disease issues we cannot stockpile sheep. If we do, one wanders, gets in trouble and then they all die.  WA WSF and WSF are working on the Okanogan Wenatchee National Forest plan revision and hopefully more considerations will be given to bighorns than the one family that grazes our public land with domestic sheep putting most of our Cali herds at risk.  WA WSF has $30,000 dedicated to restocking Tieton once the OWNF issue is resolved.  Personally, I'd rather ship sheep to Utah than offer 20 ewe hunts.  I hope all states have healthy and thriving populations of bighorns and if we can do a little to help that's great.  Also, I'm guessing I'm not alone in applying for out-of-state sheep hunts so the more sheep in Utah the better odds we have of drawing, right?!?   

One of the WA WSF directors is working with the USFS on some habitat issues for Sinlahekin.  Other than that, I can't offer much insight to what is being done or going on there.  Also, WA WSF along with our partners in Idaho and Oregon have joined with the three state agencies in funding a person to work on private lands/domestic sheep/goat mitigation to try to reduce the risk that small flocks pose to our bighorns.  This person is based in Clarkston but will work throughout the greater tri-state Hells Canyon area.  If successful, we'd love to have someone in the central part of the state doing the same! 

[Caseyd]

As Doublelung mentioned, Washington has relied heavily on transplants from other states and provinces.  A quick look through the spreadsheet I have shows a minimum of 29 different transplants into Washington from Montana, Oregon, British Columbia, Alberta and Nevada.   True, none have come from Utah but I see no problem in paying it forward.  There's been only a few going out of state. 

Sadly, because of disease issues we cannot stockpile sheep. If we do, one wanders, gets in trouble and then they all die.  WA WSF and WSF are working on the Okanogan Wenatchee National Forest plan revision and hopefully more considerations will be given to bighorns than the one family that grazes our public land with domestic sheep putting most of our Cali herds at risk.  WA WSF has $30,000 dedicated to restocking Tieton once the OWNF issue is resolved.  Personally, I'd rather ship sheep to Utah than offer 20 ewe hunts.  I hope all states have healthy and thriving populations of bighorns and if we can do a little to help that's great.  Also, I'm guessing I'm not alone in applying for out-of-state sheep hunts so the more sheep in Utah the better odds we have of drawing, right?!?   

One of the WA WSF directors is working with the USFS on some habitat issues for Sinlahekin.  Other than that, I can't offer much insight to what is being done or going on there.  Also, WA WSF along with our partners in Idaho and Oregon have joined with the three state agencies in funding a person to work on private lands/domestic sheep/goat mitigation to try to reduce the risk that small flocks pose to our bighorns.  This person is based in Clarkston but will work throughout the greater tri-state Hells Canyon area.  If successful, we'd love to have someone in the central part of the state doing the same!

Thank you for the update

[huntnphool]

As Doublelung mentioned, Washington has relied heavily on transplants from other states and provinces.  A quick look through the spreadsheet I have shows a minimum of 29 different transplants into Washington from Montana, Oregon, British Columbia, Alberta and Nevada.   True, none have come from Utah but I see no problem in paying it forward.  There's been only a few going out of state. 

Sadly, because of disease issues we cannot stockpile sheep. If we do, one wanders, gets in trouble and then they all die.  WA WSF and WSF are working on the Okanogan Wenatchee National Forest plan revision and hopefully more considerations will be given to bighorns than the one family that grazes our public land with domestic sheep putting most of our Cali herds at risk.  WA WSF has $30,000 dedicated to restocking Tieton once the OWNF issue is resolved.  Personally, I'd rather ship sheep to Utah than offer 20 ewe hunts.  I hope all states have healthy and thriving populations of bighorns and if we can do a little to help that's great.  Also, I'm guessing I'm not alone in applying for out-of-state sheep hunts so the more sheep in Utah the better odds we have of drawing, right?!?   

One of the WA WSF directors is working with the USFS on some habitat issues for Sinlahekin.  Other than that, I can't offer much insight to what is being done or going on there.  Also, WA WSF along with our partners in Idaho and Oregon have joined with the three state agencies in funding a person to work on private lands/domestic sheep/goat mitigation to try to reduce the risk that small flocks pose to our bighorns.  This person is based in Clarkston but will work throughout the greater tri-state Hells Canyon area.  If successful, we'd love to have someone in the central part of the state doing the same!

 Good stuff.

[Timberstalker]

Great information. Thanks ramslam.