Permits quotas rocking

[ribka]

The tribal hunters are sure wiping out the few remaining does left on the LT Murray this winter. Used to be pretty decent deer numbers. All wiped out now. Great job WDFW!!!

A few years ago 2 tribal members shot 7 cows and 2 spikes in the Wenas on my neighbors pasture  and left them to rot. WDFW refused to prosecute and the Tribal authorities also did nothing. That pretty much sums up the current state hunting in Washington state.

Left wing anti hunting groups like Conservation NW pretty much dictates game management now in Washington.

[grundy53]

They seem to have pulled the link to proposed changes. Any have the link saved? Or a copy of the proposed changes?

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[bobcat]

I think this is it:

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/about/regulations/2019/wsr_19-03-129.pdf

[Tinmaniac]

The tribal hunters are sure wiping out the few remaining does left on the LT Murray this winter. Used to be pretty decent deer numbers. All wiped out now. Great job WDFW!!!

A few years ago 2 tribal members shot 7 cows and 2 spikes in the Wenas on my neighbors pasture  and left them to rot. WDFW refused to prosecute and the Tribal authorities also did nothing. That pretty much sums up the current state hunting in Washington state.

Left wing anti hunting groups like Conservation NW pretty much dictates game management now in Washington.

Please explain what you think the State can do when the tribes are exercising Federal treaty rights.?I don't like 2 different sets of rules but the state is pretty much powerless when it comes to treaty rights.

[bobcat]

The state could gate all state land and keep the gates closed from November through the end of May. If they want to kill elk on their winter range they can do it on foot. The treaties didn't promise motorized access to anywhere they want to hunt.

[bigdub257]

The tribal hunters are sure wiping out the few remaining does left on the LT Murray this winter. Used to be pretty decent deer numbers. All wiped out now. Great job WDFW!!!

A few years ago 2 tribal members shot 7 cows and 2 spikes in the Wenas on my neighbors pasture  and left them to rot. WDFW refused to prosecute and the Tribal authorities also did nothing. That pretty much sums up the current state hunting in Washington state.

Left wing anti hunting groups like Conservation NW pretty much dictates game management now in Washington.

No deer left in the Umtanum.  Used to enjoy seeing all the rutting bucks during rifle elk season.  Lucky if you see one or two does a day now.

[Tinmaniac]

The state could gate all state land and keep the gates closed from November through the end of May. If they want to kill elk on their winter range they can do it on foot. The treaties didn't promise motorized access to anywhere they want to hunt.

The tribes would then sue the state in Federal court claiming the state is blocking the tribe from their usual and accustomed hunting grounds.Anybody ever hear of the Boldt decision?This would be no different.

[huntnnw]

it usually boils down to priorities in life

So if I understand you, you are okay with the drastic cut in Eastside bull permits and tribal members being completely unregulated because you have the means to hunt out if state? I guess ignorance is bliss and you're definitely in the minority.

where in the hell do you come to that conclusion from my post? wow.. that is about a complete 180 from what I am talking about

[huntnnw]

It’s to the point they just need to make every unit in the state draw only for deer and elk.

mule deer in this state should absolutely be permit only for ALL rifle hunts. Its a joke what this state has done to the mule deer and lack of any sort of management. Well over less than half this state has mule deer habitat yet we are only second in popualtion to CA and its free for all every fall on muleys.

[grundy53]

I think this is it:

https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/about/regulations/2019/wsr_19-03-129.pdf

Thank you

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[Tinmaniac]

This is what the Boldt decision gave the tribes the right to do to salmon.Hot August day,boat load of ripe kings.I am sure elk and deer are harvested the same way.

[trophyhunt]

In the Yakama tribe's hunting area, we should adopt the same hunting seasons and limits that they have. Year around for bull elk and cow elk from September 1st to December 31st. Kill as many as you want. No limits. Same for deer.

100% agree!!  Think about it, it makes perfect sense.  There is no other way to get the tribes to change.

[Skyvalhunter]

The state could gate all state land and keep the gates closed from November through the end of May. If they want to kill elk on their winter range they can do it on foot. The treaties didn't promise motorized access to anywhere they want to hunt.

That's not going to happen, the areas I know where the tribes hunt the USFS gives them a key and its closed to motorized vehicles except USFS and the tribes.

[sagerat]

The state could gate all state land and keep the gates closed from November through the end of May. If they want to kill elk on their winter range they can do it on foot. The treaties didn't promise motorized access to anywhere they want to hunt.

That's not going to happen, the areas I know where the tribes hunt the USFS gives them a key and its closed to motorized vehicles except USFS and the tribes.

This also happens on DNR ground. We have to hike in yet the tribe gets a key. I can’t stand it.

[cem3434]

it usually boils down to priorities in life

So if I understand you, you are okay with the drastic cut in Eastside bull permits and tribal members being completely unregulated because you have the means to hunt out if state? I guess ignorance is bliss and you're definitely in the minority.

where in the hell do you come to that conclusion from my post? wow.. that is about a complete 180 from what I am talking about

Re-read your prior posts. If I misunderstood something, please communicate where. You jumped to the conclusion that people were were complaining about not enough eastside MF bull permits. You completely missed the point of the mismanagement of the herds by the state and the blatant over harvest by some tribal members without the tribes seemingly caring. We all know that there aren't enough permits (or elk) and too many hunters applying for a small percentage of permits in this state. This still doesn't address the piss poor management of the herds (deer and elk) by WDFW and the tribes.

Further you made a comment that it's all about priorities when it comes to having the means to hunting out of state. Most cannot afford to hunt out of state every year and that is not a solution to the problem. To me, you come across as you're an elitist because you are in the small percentage that can afford to and has the vacation to hunt out of state every year. Again, if I'm off base, please tell me what I misunderstood from your previous posts.