STATEWIDE bear reg proposal 🤞

[hunter399]

Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.

[Bango skank]

Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.

For one thing, the spring bear is not an additional bear, it does not increase the bag limit.

For another, wdfw says they do not have an estimate for the bear population, instead they rely on hunter harvest statistics as a surrogate for population estimate.  So by wdfws methods, the more bears killed, the higher they assume the population to be

[Bango skank]

Even considering much of the state already had a 2 bear limit and august 1st or august 15th openers, still the total statewide fall harvest increased by almost 50% from 2018 to 2019.    that extra 685 bears reported killed last fall will help out the deer elk and moose.   

[Jpmiller]

Most of the folks I talked to last year had no idea about the reg change because it wasn't in the paper copy they picked up in spring. I'd bet alot more pressure gets put on them this fall too.

[dmoua]

Most of the folks I talked to last year had no idea about the reg change because it wasn't in the paper copy they picked up in spring. I'd bet alot more pressure gets put on them this fall too.

This. There were a lot of people that questioned us last season.

[hunter399]

Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.

For one thing, the spring bear is not an additional bear, it does not increase the bag limit.

For another, wdfw says they do not have an estimate for the bear population, instead they rely on hunter harvest statistics as a surrogate for population estimate.  So by wdfws methods, the more bears killed, the higher they assume the population to be

I'm fully aware of how bear population is estimated.So when or if there is a decline in harvest we will lose opportunity.
As you know WDFW has a pretty good record for allowing over harvest ,then taking opportunity away. I've been emailing a few people at WDFW over spring permit numbers ect.It didn't sound as if permits numbers or any kind of spring bear season was gonna change.
But knowing how WDFW is you can see my concern.

[HillHound]

 If people will get out and put the effort In success rate should not go down. Most people just don’t even go out there hunting And only shoot them incidentally. All you have to do is get out there and try. My brother Was never much into it because he would never see bears. I kept shooting bears in August when there weren’t nearly as many people out and I finally got him over this year and he did get a shot off at one. Unfortunately he just nicked it. He went home and I killed a different one a couple days later then the one he had missed his chance on the week after that. He is now hooked and will be back August 1st.

[Bango skank]

Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.

For one thing, the spring bear is not an additional bear, it does not increase the bag limit.

For another, wdfw says they do not have an estimate for the bear population, instead they rely on hunter harvest statistics as a surrogate for population estimate.  So by wdfws methods, the more bears killed, the higher they assume the population to be

I'm fully aware of how bear population is estimated.So when or if there is a decline in harvest we will lose opportunity.
As you know WDFW has a pretty good record for allowing over harvest ,then taking opportunity away. I've been emailing a few people at WDFW over spring permit numbers ect.It didn't sound as if permits numbers or any kind of spring bear season was gonna change.
But knowing how WDFW is you can see my concern.

Yeah, i see your concern, it goes in a pattern like this.

We need more predator control!

Oh no, they gave us more predator control, this is bad because if we kill more predators theyll take away our increased predator control!

Serious dude, just stop. 

Whats the point of having opportunity if youre afraid to yse it for fear of it being taken away?

Everybody should make sure not to kill predators so we can have good seasons?

You make no sense, you just look for things to complain about.  I think you enjoy being a massive pessimist naysayer.

[buglebrush]

Any increase in predator harvest in Washington is a very very good thing.  Bears kill a lot of caves.  A LOT!  I wish they would also make the harvesting of meat optional like Idaho.  I personally take meat, but the ultimate goal of predator hunting is to reduce the numbers.  This especially applies in Washington due to the wolf and lion situation. 

[hunter399]

Although the two bear tags is a great hunter opportunity/predator management.Im still on the fence about it.
One question though if your raising fall harvest for x amount of years how do you expect to get OTC spring bear hunt.

For one thing, the spring bear is not an additional bear, it does not increase the bag limit.

For another, wdfw says they do not have an estimate for the bear population, instead they rely on hunter harvest statistics as a surrogate for population estimate.  So by wdfws methods, the more bears killed, the higher they assume the population to be

I'm fully aware of how bear population is estimated.So when or if there is a decline in harvest we will lose opportunity.
As you know WDFW has a pretty good record for allowing over harvest ,then taking opportunity away. I've been emailing a few people at WDFW over spring permit numbers ect.It didn't sound as if permits numbers or any kind of spring bear season was gonna change.
But knowing how WDFW is you can see my concern.

Yeah, i see your concern, it goes in a pattern like this.

We need more predator control!

Oh no, they gave us more predator control, this is bad because if we kill more predators theyll take away our increased predator control!

Serious dude, just stop. 

Whats the point of having opportunity if youre afraid to yse it for fear of it being taken away?

Everybody should make sure not to kill predators so we can have good seasons?

You make no sense, you just look for things to complain about.  I think you enjoy being a massive pessimist naysayer.

[Bango skank]

Just got this info.  Thats a hell of a big jump in 2nd bear tags sold.  Those additional 609 2nd bear tags sold brought in about $15,000 for wdfw, which im sure they will spend wisely 

[jasnt]

Hope they keep it for life

[Bango skank]

Hope they keep it for life

Have you ever known wdfw to give up a revenue source once they get it?

[cougforester]

Just got this info.  Thats a hell of a big jump in 2nd bear tags sold.  Those additional 609 2nd bear tags sold brought in about $15,000 for wdfw, which im sure they will spend wisely 

That's good news. I was one of them, didn't get to fill the second one this year. Lookin forward to two notched bear tags this fall though!