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Offline HighCountryHunter88

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2019, 03:52:20 PM »
did the whole herd fall 50% or just the bulls? if the cows didnt take a dive that should say something right there.....
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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2019, 04:03:36 PM »
Since when did 334 become part of the Observatory? Isn't there a no branch bull restriction there? I mean for us, not holier than though Governor tag holders.


I think they might be adding bull permits for 334. It's mentioned here:




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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2019, 04:16:31 PM »
Can anybody put up a link to the actual website or is this just an April fools joke I’ve seen the previous proposed numbers and they’re a lot higher than this not by much though


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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2019, 04:22:58 PM »
 :yeah:

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2019, 04:35:32 PM »

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2019, 04:35:54 PM »

Pulled these from the website.


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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2019, 04:43:44 PM »
So now quality elk tags are essentially OIL tags on the eastside across all weapon categories? The sportsmen's strike is sounding better and better. We need to destroy WDFW as is and resurrect it in the interest of those who fund it.  :puke:
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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2019, 05:08:45 PM »
Which of the 2 charts above is the latest proposal

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2019, 05:44:04 PM »
Population surveys have to be done correctly and consistently year over year.  Maybe they have new biologists.  Maybe they are using a whole new method.  Maybe they have new helicopter pilots.  Maybe they just got unlucky and missed a bunch while running their transects.  Maybe there is a political factor.  Maybe they couldn't afford surveys because of budget problems.

Managing based on harvest results is a poor way to go IMO.  Too small of a sample size.  Too many variables during the hunt, beginning with weather.

It's similar to counting the homeless in Seattle.  It depends on how hard you count.  One year the "one night count" might show 3,800, the next it might show 1,800.  The difference?  Rainy night and not enough volunteers, homeless tucked deeper into their tents...it's going to give you smaller numbers.  And next year, lets say they switch to a "one-week count"....do you think those numbers will be higher or lower?  Duh.

My point being, we will get better management when we get better surveys.  And I never hear about "surveys", all I hear about are "estimates".

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2019, 06:02:02 PM »
Wow 75% reduction.  That is a HARD pill to swallow.

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2019, 06:32:56 PM »
This is terrible, WDFW is a true joke.

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2019, 07:40:06 PM »
Afraid this is just the beginning, once permits go down it is tough to get them back up.
unless they cancel OTC and make up the harvest with permit only.

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #27 on: April 01, 2019, 07:44:29 PM »
Taking opportunity away from hunters to feed the predators is exactly whats up.

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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #28 on: April 01, 2019, 08:57:58 PM »
Is this where you got those numbers?



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Re: Permit quotas
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2019, 08:09:08 AM »
Holy smokes.
Truly absurdity.
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