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NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« on: June 30, 2019, 07:03:44 PM »
Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1

On July 1st, the remaining provisions of Initiative 1639 will go into effect.  Previously, on January 1st, a provision from I-1639 went into effect to prohibit young adults under the age of 21 from receiving semi-automatic rifles, along with a provision that bans sales to out of state residents.  NRA and the Second Amendment Foundation filed a lawsuit challenging I-1639 in November 2018 not long after it passed.  The United States District Court for the Western District of Washington rejected a motion by the Washington state government defendants to dismiss this lawsuit back in May, clearing it to proceed.

Under I-1639, starting July 1st, prospective purchasers of semi-automatic rifles will be required to have completed a specific, I-1639 compliant, firearm training course within the previous five years, transfers of semi-automatic rifles will be required to be delayed for ten business days before the recipient may take possession, the existing handgun registry will extend to semi-automatic rifle transfers, and recipients will be required to pay a fee of $18 to the Department of Licensing to process transfers.  Firearm owners will also be required to store firearms locked up per state standards or potentially face criminal liability if they are accessed by another.

Additionally, House Bill 1465, sponsored by Representative Roger Goodman (D-45), will go into effect July 1st as well.  It will require CPL holders to undergo a state background check on handgun purchases instead of the instant NICS check that is currently being conducted as a courtesy by the FBI.  Beginning July 1st, the FBI will no longer be conducting these courtesy NICS checks for CPL holders.

Please stay tuned to www.nraila.org and your email inbox for further updates as I-1639 implementation begins and on other issues affecting our Second Amendment rights in Washington.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/20190630/washington-i1639-to-go-into-effect-july-1
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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2019, 07:10:35 PM »
I really hope this is overturned in court.  Death by a thousand cuts!!!!   :bash: :bash:

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2019, 08:43:55 PM »
I HATE this state!

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2019, 01:06:28 AM »
Besides being generally aggravated by this, is anyone else irritated the state found a way to earn revenue on this?

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2019, 07:36:19 AM »
Besides being generally aggravated by this, is anyone else irritated the state found a way to earn revenue on this?
You mean steal revenue don't you?

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2019, 09:33:58 AM »
Yep!

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2019, 10:00:54 AM »
Besides being generally aggravated by this, is anyone else irritated the state found a way to earn revenue on this?
You mean steal revenue don't you?

With the longer waiting period over a larger variety of arms (Semi Auto Rifles, No Same Day Pistol purchases with CPL) I have had to purchase another safe. AND a small stock of trigger locks for things shipped in without one.  So its added to my cost of doing business beyond the stationary/postage/more paper to print/send/track.

So Dick in the Dirt...its OK to burden a business with more costs and you call recovering those costs stealing revenue?  :bash:  Maybe you have never owned your own business, never seen all the crap larded on your business by this state...in addition to the basic costs, permits, fees,  I get additional storage requirements, Locks, and MORE paper to handle, by the idjit voters...especially the gun-owners who VOTED FOR IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T READ THE WHOLE THING. 

I asked one of those to take his business elsewhere when he was griping about what was going to happen when he ordered his 10-22 for his Kid...after July 1.  And had the nerve to bitch at me like i was the one who added the additional requirements.  He wanted to get a 10-22 and walk out the same day without having to take a class.  I had to explain that he wouldn't be able to do that.  His response was "I'll just find a dealer who will let me do it."  I responded, "Good Luck With that!".  He complained that the initiative didnt say it would apply to 10-22s..I responded that it did indeed SPELL IT OUT....if he had bothered to read it.
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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2019, 10:05:07 AM »
Im ready for a tactical retreat to Idaho, personally. This state is too far gone which is sad to say, since I've lived here for 43 years. I know the argument, stay and fight, etc., but I am just tired of it.

Here's to hoping it gets overturned in court.

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2019, 10:09:31 AM »
I recently had a long visit with a lawyer friend, his exact and specifically worded advice to me was: GTF Out Now!   :chuckle:
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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2019, 10:12:14 AM »
The guy got REALLY upset at the annual re-certification to continue to own his 10-22.  The idjit didnt READ IT...And Voted for it...self inflicted wound.

I don't need his business.

RCW 9.41.139, as adopted under Initiative 1639, requires that the Washington State Department of Licensing work with the Washington State Patrol and other state and local law enforcement agencies to develop a process to verifyat least once a yearthat the owner of a pistol or semiautomatic assault rifle remains eligible to possess a firearm under state and federal law. If the owner is determined to be ineligible for any reason, notification and the relevant information will be provided to the chief of police or the sheriff of the jurisdiction in which the owner resides. Steps are then required to be taken to ensure the owner is not illegally in possession of firearms. The new law requires the verification process to be developed no later than July 1, 2020.
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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2019, 10:20:12 AM »
Besides being generally aggravated by this, is anyone else irritated the state found a way to earn revenue on this?
You mean steal revenue don't you?

With the longer waiting period over a larger variety of arms (Semi Auto Rifles, No Same Day Pistol purchases with CPL) I have had to purchase another safe. AND a small stock of trigger locks for things shipped in without one.  So its added to my cost of doing business beyond the stationary/postage/more paper to print/send/track.

So Dick in the Dirt...its OK to burden a business with more costs and you call recovering those costs stealing revenue?  :bash:  Maybe you have never owned your own business, never seen all the crap larded on your business by this state...in addition to the basic costs, permits, fees,  I get additional storage requirements, Locks, and MORE paper to handle, by the idjit voters...especially the gun-owners who VOTED FOR IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T READ THE WHOLE THING. 

I asked one of those to take his business elsewhere when he was griping about what was going to happen when he ordered his 10-22 for his Kid...after July 1.  And had the nerve to bitch at me like i was the one who added the additional requirements.  He wanted to get a 10-22 and walk out the same day without having to take a class.  I had to explain that he wouldn't be able to do that.  His response was "I'll just find a dealer who will let me do it."  I responded, "Good Luck With that!".  He complained that the initiative didnt say it would apply to 10-22s..I responded that it did indeed SPELL IT OUT....if he had bothered to read it.

FWIW, I think DitD was saying that the state was stealing from US and YOU, too.

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2019, 10:21:39 AM »
GTF Out Now!

Sadly, this is good advice.  I can't wait.

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2019, 11:29:05 AM »
The guy got REALLY upset at the annual re-certification to continue to own his 10-22.  The idjit didnt READ IT...And Voted for it...self inflicted wound.

I don't need his business.

I was at a gun shop the other day and this random guy announced with a loud tone of authority that 1639 only affects semi-auto rifles. He was implying that anyone looking at pistols didn't understand the bill. The shop owner was busy with purchases and just nodded his head.

You have to wonder how many gun owners voted for 1639 without reading it or doing even 10 minutes of research. I realize the vote was heavily King/Pierce as usual but some of the rural counties didn't have very strong majorities against. 

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2019, 12:03:13 PM »
To many people vote and don’t do any research on what they vote on. Happens all the time

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Re: NRA: Washington I-1639 To Go Into Effect July 1
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2019, 03:18:11 PM »
This may have been posted on here elsewhere, but a friend just sent me this link for free I1639 training. I like how they poke holes in the law during the training, and the comments on the certificate are pretty funny.

https://sporting-systems.com/free-1639-training/

 


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