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Am I reading this right? Salt water get 2, Puyallup river gets 6, but Snohomish gets none....? I sure hope I'm reading this wrong. My daughter is going to be livid! Shes been looking forward to the run since Christmas. Not cool.Someone please tell me the Snohomish will be open for at least a 1 fish retention.
Quote from: Whitenuckles on July 29, 2019, 01:08:01 PMAm I reading this right? Salt water get 2, Puyallup river gets 6, but Snohomish gets none....? I sure hope I'm reading this wrong. My daughter is going to be livid! Shes been looking forward to the run since Christmas. Not cool.Someone please tell me the Snohomish will be open for at least a 1 fish retention.Puyallup is only 2 as all pinks count against the 2 adult daily limit
So not only did they take pinks away from us this year, they dropped the coho limit to 1. Just a couple years ago it was 3 a day. I just read an article that says our coho run is up 15% this year from the 10 year average. What the hell is going on?
Quote from: Whitenuckles on July 29, 2019, 03:14:13 PMSo not only did they take pinks away from us this year, they dropped the coho limit to 1. Just a couple years ago it was 3 a day. I just read an article that says our coho run is up 15% this year from the 10 year average. What the hell is going on? Coho forecast is down this year from last year and well down of long term average.
They could just look at AK, sure they have some issues like anywhere else but they only let fish into boats after the run materializes and have absolutely no qualms about shutting recs or commercials down in a heartbeat.The Columbia was once the most prolific salmon river in the world and now we argue if we need barbless hooks and a 1 fish limit.WDFW/ODFW play a huge part as do the groups suing to keep hatcheries shut.
It really is a sad day when there aren't enough pinks to have a sport fishery. It has nothing to do with habitat or ocean conditions either, it's pure greed and over harvest. Not enough fish for a sport fishery, but there will be 15 seine boats in front of Mukilteo and Skagit Bay working them over I guarantee it. Let the damn things hit the gravel, why is that such a hard concept to handle?
The shear numbers of these fish that we had while other salmon runs declined and struggled is a key indicator that the primary reason for their success was lack of commercial interest. As soon as chum and pink roe became a commodity, their numbers were crushed in less than a decade. Coincidence? No.
There really does need to be a huge management shift in Olympia. Get away from this ridiculous and scientifically defunct practice of maximum sustained yield, and start monitoring our fisheries and only let commercials hit them once enough fish have past. A few seasons of putting the fish first and my guess is they come back with gusto.
Quote from: Stein on July 31, 2019, 09:41:45 AMThey could just look at AK, sure they have some issues like anywhere else but they only let fish into boats after the run materializes and have absolutely no qualms about shutting recs or commercials down in a heartbeat.The Columbia was once the most prolific salmon river in the world and now we argue if we need barbless hooks and a 1 fish limit.WDFW/ODFW play a huge part as do the groups suing to keep hatcheries shut.AK is has a ton of problems of its own. I don't think it's some shining example of how things ought to be done.
It really is a sad day when there aren't enough pinks to have a sport fishery. It has nothing to do with habitat or ocean conditions either, it's pure greed and over harvest. Not enough fish for a sport fishery, but there will be 15 seine boats in front of Mukilteo and Skagit Bay working them over I guarantee it. Let the damn things hit the gravel, why is that such a hard concept to handle?The writing was on the wall though when Chums suffered the same fate a decade or so ago. I can remember fishing from Ben Howard to Lewis Street and catching 50 chums a day no problem. Hardly see one roll in there in November anymore. The Skagit was even better, and you got the bonus Dolly and Rainbow fishing behind spawning chums up there. Easy to catch 100 trout a day fishing beads below chum redds. The Chums are gone now and with them went the trout and Dollies. When the Indians are struggling to catch enough Chums for their CHUM HATCHERY (something that should never have to exist), there's a problem. Hell last year they were catching more Atlantics in their nets in the lower Skagit than Chums! Makes me want to slam my head through a plate glass window. Chums and Pinks are two of the most prolific spawners in the salmon world. Literally just let a few make it to gravel and you'll have all you ever need. But letting anything spawn and decompose in the river is an enormous waste I guess. Rant over, carry on.
the skagit has huge spikes in cfs.
The percentage of the total coastwide smolt production consumed by harbor seals increased from 1.5% (3.5 million consumed out of 236.8 million estimated total production) in 1975 to 6.5% (27.4 million consumed out of 423.4 million estimated total production) in 2015. Harbor seals in the Salish Sea (i.e. Puget Sound, Strait of Georgia, and Strait of San Juan de Fuca) accounted for 86.4% of the total coast wide smolt consumption in 2015, due to large increases in the harbor seal abundance in this region between 1975 and 2015 (8,600 to 77,800), as well as a large diet fraction of Chinook salmon smolts relative to other regions (see supplemental material).
