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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2019, 07:10:51 PM »
This decision is a good one--I have to disagree with many of you.

You all know the paved trails at Sunrise and Paradise, right?  Asphalt through flowered meadows.  Few of us on this forum would consider them "hiking trails," but for the old lady with a cane, or the disabled in a wheelchair these paths are the only way to experience the beauty of the national parks.  I see e-bikes in the same way--they are essentially aids for those who no longer can ride on their own.

National parks are PARKS.  Meaning, they are set aside for all of the public to enjoy.  Why not let the handicapped (and, less-than-fit) to also enjoy them??

I was at the Wonderland Trail in Rainier this morning.  It is already illegal to ride a bicycle on that trail.  E-bikes will not be allowed, either.

I applaud the Trump administration to opening more lands to the public.  Not for me, but good for Grandma.

I might agree if it was limited to parks, but it's doesn't appear that it is. I'm cool with Granny's on paved trails not cool with them ripping it up in the backcountry.

 :yeah: across the board allowance is no Bueno. Hopefully this somehow gets revised in order to keep it narrowed.
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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2019, 07:11:24 PM »
.  Not for me, but good for Grandma.

For every granny or disabled person using an e bike to access non motorized areas, there will be a hundred beer can tossing, road hunting lazy asses.  Just slap a camo budweiser hat and an orange vest on this guy, and this is pretty much what we will be seeing on non motorized trails now.

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2019, 07:19:21 PM »
We allow horses into the backcountry that do far more damage. There are plenty of folks because of their age and/or disabilities that applaud this decision. Time now to open it up to everywhere bicycles are allowed. We stopped being able to criticize these bikes when we allowed the ATV's that we see almost everywhere and mountain bikers that have no concern for anyone else on the trails...

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2019, 07:21:14 PM »
What do atvs have to do with non motorized trails?

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2019, 07:23:02 PM »
More access.  Great.  It isn't just for the young n healthy.  My ol man used to bike a lot.  Cant now with bad hips n all.  Im gonna buy him one!  TRUMP!!!
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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2019, 07:44:34 PM »
What do atvs have to do with non motorized trails?

Every time I hunt I see them where they are not supposed to be. They have no respect for the rules. They do far more damage than an E-bike ever will. Outlaw them and the horses first before restricting E-bikes. That won't happen because of the money involved in those two pastimes.

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2019, 07:47:46 PM »
What do atvs have to do with non motorized trails?

Every time I hunt I see them where they are not supposed to be. They have no respect for the rules. They do far more damage than an E-bike ever will. Outlaw them and the horses first before restricting E-bikes. That won't happen because of the money involved in those two pastimes.

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2019, 08:06:01 PM »
Pretty sure some of the usual suspects (Can Am, kawaski, Yamaha, Bass pro, etc) will be coming out soon with specialzed off road E-bikes. I think it would have been better to come out with a permit system allowing the elderly or disabled to apply for permission to use. I can see more bad coming from this than good.

Funny you should say this...Bass Pro has a QuietKat Ebike in the hunting area as of a week ago. $4100

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2019, 08:08:19 PM »
 :bash: what's granny going to do when her e-bike dies and she cant self rescue...maybe they can do a special...buy 1 ebike & get a garmin inreach mini 50% off

Really dont see how this is beneficial to hunters in anyway.. :twocents:

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2019, 08:10:12 PM »
Better than horses / mules.  Good decision.

The folks with horses and mules will still be there.  This just adds a lot more people, as most folks dont have the land, time and money to have livestock, while getting an e bike and throwing it in your garage is within the means of anybody with a little disposable income.

 :yeah: I’m against it. If you can’t hike in get a mule and ride in. Hopefully this gets limited to small areas... or thrown out!

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2019, 08:11:15 PM »
:bash: what's granny going to do when her e-bike dies and she cant self rescue...maybe they can do a special...buy 1 ebike & get a garmin inreach mini 50% off

Really dont see how this is beneficial to hunters in anyway.. :twocents:

You would if you were in your seventies or disabled.

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2019, 08:12:50 PM »
The way I read it is this just affects Interior department lands. National Parks and BLM land mostly. National forests are under the USDA and wouldn’t be included in this decision

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2019, 08:14:10 PM »
I can see future monster "e-bikes"with little dinky pedals just to fit in the scope of the ruling. 

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2019, 08:15:57 PM »
:bash: what's granny going to do when her e-bike dies and she cant self rescue...maybe they can do a special...buy 1 ebike & get a garmin inreach mini 50% off

Really dont see how this is beneficial to hunters in anyway.. :twocents:

You would if you were in your seventies or disabled.

If youre in your 70s or disabled, maybe its just time to accept that non motorized areas are no longer an option.  And lets be honest here.  The number of elderly and disabled people taking advantage of this will be a very small percentage.  It will mostly benefit the hordes of lazy fatasses.  Otherwise, they would just make it a permit exception for disabled.

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Re: Electric bikes are no longer motorized vehicles
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2019, 08:24:44 PM »
The reward for working hard to get five miles in a trail is the lack of hunting pressure. When the number of people able to easily get away from their vehicles and do what hikers have done will diminish the experience for everyone.
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