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Quote from: Wsucoug on October 24, 2019, 03:54:45 PMJust so everyone knows, conservation NW has taken out Facebook marketing ads (paid ads) and is targeting people asking them to send canned emails to WDFW. Sample emails can be taken from their website. https://www.conservationnw.org/news-updates/take-action-for-washington-wolves/?fbclid=IwAR30Kr_glYBu8n4qAPaBSuxjTV5nmQzjFDoM2K522AMKF_dRFxP4_Q-rawEIs there an effective way this can be passed on to wdfw in order to discredit con nw
Just so everyone knows, conservation NW has taken out Facebook marketing ads (paid ads) and is targeting people asking them to send canned emails to WDFW. Sample emails can be taken from their website. https://www.conservationnw.org/news-updates/take-action-for-washington-wolves/?fbclid=IwAR30Kr_glYBu8n4qAPaBSuxjTV5nmQzjFDoM2K522AMKF_dRFxP4_Q-rawE
Quote from: Wsucoug on October 24, 2019, 03:54:45 PMJust so everyone knows, conservation NW has taken out Facebook marketing ads (paid ads) and is targeting people asking them to send canned emails to WDFW. Sample emails can be taken from their website. https://www.conservationnw.org/news-updates/take-action-for-washington-wolves/Is there an effective way this can be passed on to wdfw in order to discredit con nw
Just so everyone knows, conservation NW has taken out Facebook marketing ads (paid ads) and is targeting people asking them to send canned emails to WDFW. Sample emails can be taken from their website. https://www.conservationnw.org/news-updates/take-action-for-washington-wolves/
Quote from: buckfvr on October 24, 2019, 05:23:28 PMQuote from: Wsucoug on October 24, 2019, 03:54:45 PMJust so everyone knows, conservation NW has taken out Facebook marketing ads (paid ads) and is targeting people asking them to send canned emails to WDFW. Sample emails can be taken from their website. https://www.conservationnw.org/news-updates/take-action-for-washington-wolves/Is there an effective way this can be passed on to wdfw in order to discredit con nw How would this standard communications practice discredit anyone? Just about anyone with a page can run boosted Facebook posts or ads. CNW spent twenty bucks on this boosted post (literally, $20), and targeted Washington residents. This isn't Russian hacking. I'd be far more concerned about the actual fringe groups from Arizona, Oregon and Maryland suing WDFW to stop wolf culls after chronic cattle depredations, lobbying state legislators and the Governor, scheming about a citizen's initiative in 2020 to ban all wolf killing, and already trying to move the wolf recovery goal posts.They arn't even trying to hide that crap, and neither are the Lands Council in Spokane: https://mailchi.mp/landscouncil/post-recovery-wolf-commentshttps://cascadiawildlands.salsalabs.org/enews-september-2019_copy1_copy1_copy1https://act.biologicaldiversity.org/onlineactions/_e4y7pDDNUWB0T3P8j8TQg2Having at least one alternative in WDFW's post-recovery wolf EIS that does not include general or OTC wolf hunting seasons will be essential to avoid lawsuits from those groups, and so as not to provide easy fuel that ignites the initiative or state legislation they already want to run. That doesn't mean such an alternative would be selected after the two to three year process. CNW's comments use the term general hunting for a reason. We hunters might also note the language about supporting ungulate population health. You wont see that from any of the other wildlife .orgs: "Now, it’s time to build on this work to help WDFW and the Fish and Wildlife Commission craft a new Wolf Plan that supports a resilient population and acceptance for wolves across rural communities.Many of Washington’s elk and deer herds are in decline, especially populations on the eastern slopes of the Cascades and in the Kettle Range due to habitat fragmentation, recent large fires and severe winters. It will be important for the state and partners to dedicate time and resources to understanding what’s needed to restore healthy ungulate populations, which are vital for predators like wolves as well as for people who depend on them for subsistence, recreation and natural and cultural heritage—from Native American nations to other hunter-conservationists."Like, CNW, hate CNW, doesn't really matter. But there's a strategy here, and it's not to screw over hunters or deer and elk.
Quote from: idahohuntr on October 24, 2019, 07:20:40 PMGiven that no state with recovered wolves has ever had an issue with conservation/preservation of wolves even with extremely liberal hunting seasons, the WDFW should have ample evidence at their disposal to combat any of the crazies that argue a hunting season will be a conservation concern.Some points folks could consider making:-Well managed wolf hunting seasons in surrounding states has not resulted in any conservation concerns for the species. Most of these nearby states have very liberal hunting seasons (long seasons, multiple tags)-Public hunting increases support and social tolerance for wolf management and conservation in communities and constituencies most affected by wolf recovery-Wolves should be managed as game animals just the same as other large predators in WA state (e.g., bears and cougars) which are currently thriving-Public hunting of wolves provides another tool for wildlife managers to address areas where wolves are a limiting factor to other species -Public hunting of wolves will provide additional revenue for responsible wolf management and conservationgreat suggestions
Given that no state with recovered wolves has ever had an issue with conservation/preservation of wolves even with extremely liberal hunting seasons, the WDFW should have ample evidence at their disposal to combat any of the crazies that argue a hunting season will be a conservation concern.Some points folks could consider making:-Well managed wolf hunting seasons in surrounding states has not resulted in any conservation concerns for the species. Most of these nearby states have very liberal hunting seasons (long seasons, multiple tags)-Public hunting increases support and social tolerance for wolf management and conservation in communities and constituencies most affected by wolf recovery-Wolves should be managed as game animals just the same as other large predators in WA state (e.g., bears and cougars) which are currently thriving-Public hunting of wolves provides another tool for wildlife managers to address areas where wolves are a limiting factor to other species -Public hunting of wolves will provide additional revenue for responsible wolf management and conservation
When I submitted my comments I said something like this:WA should follow in Idaho's footsets. To think that WA can start from scratch and come up with a superior plan for wolves, would be to discredit all the effort and ideas that Idaho's game department has already come up with. Why should WA game dept. waste their monetary resources creating something that has already been implemented successfully? Why are we reinventing the wheel? In my eyes the plan's framework is already done, WA just need to adapt it to our state boundaries.
