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WDFW 2017-19 budget which ended July 1:
27% came from license fees
21% came from state general fund/taxes
62% came from the feds, local government or private sector

10 years earlier in 2007-09:
31% came from state general fund/taxes
18% came from license fees
61% came from the feds, local government or private sector
It is unfortunate  that so many folks do not link the PR funds to sportsmen especially since the payout formulation is based off it. If you link PR funds that 27 look closer to 47%.   

I am.befuddled that sportsmen can contribute so little according to the department and yet they can do so much more for us than if we merged parks, dnr and Wildlife. 

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WDFW 2017-19 budget which ended July 1:
27% came from license fees
21% came from state general fund/taxes
62% came from the feds, local government or private sector

10 years earlier in 2007-09:
31% came from state general fund/taxes
18% came from license fees
61% came from the feds, local government or private sector
Thank you, I get that! :tup:

 However, there are those of us that go back hunting prior to 2007. ;)
But the WDFW website does not. And if it did, it would show an even higher percentage of general fund funding in the years prior to 2007.
Post up a Washington State Link prior to 1995, that shows where WDFW funds came from to support the agency, and the percentage that came from each area.
You and I both know those links aren't available

 Well doesn’t that make your comments convenient! ;)
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Why would any law maker give WDFW any more money? They mananagment and lack of customer service has lead to there demise!!!!!!Thing need to change or hunters will continue to leave the state.NO MORE FEES until the quality of hunt improves.

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WDFW 2017-19 budget which ended July 1:
27% came from license fees
21% came from state general fund/taxes
62% came from the feds, local government or private sector

10 years earlier in 2007-09:
31% came from state general fund/taxes
18% came from license fees
61% came from the feds, local government or private sector
It is unfortunate  that so many folks do not link the PR funds to sportsmen especially since the payout formulation is based off it. If you link PR funds that 27 look closer to 47%.   

I am.befuddled that sportsmen can contribute so little according to the department and yet they can do so much more for us than if we merged parks, dnr and Wildlife. 
Not based off my math, more like 37%. PR and DJ funds are funded annually, the WDFW budget is biannually. In 2018 WDFW got $22 million in PR and DJ funds, so if you double that to $44M and add that to the $118M WDFW got from the Wildlife fund in 2017-19 you're actually sitting at around 37% funded from PR, DJ, and license fees (total budget was $437M). Also need to remember that there are a lot of non-hunters who do contribute to PR based off the items they buy.

Nobody in DNR, Parks or WDFW want the agencies to merge. That was a Gregoire push back in the recession.

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Why would any law maker give WDFW any more money? They mananagment and lack of customer service has lead to there demise!!!!!!Thing need to change or hunters will continue to leave the state.NO MORE FEES until the quality of hunt improves.

 This is my point!

 You get WDFW swamp dwellers post up misleading info, knowing full well nobody can look up the history, while they claim they need MORE money to make things the way they should be. All the while increasing their salaries while focusing on predators!
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WDFW 2017-19 budget which ended July 1:
27% came from license fees
21% came from state general fund/taxes
62% came from the feds, local government or private sector

10 years earlier in 2007-09:
31% came from state general fund/taxes
18% came from license fees
61% came from the feds, local government or private sector
It is unfortunate  that so many folks do not link the PR funds to sportsmen especially since the payout formulation is based off it. If you link PR funds that 27 look closer to 47%.   

I am.befuddled that sportsmen can contribute so little according to the department and yet they can do so much more for us than if we merged parks, dnr and Wildlife. 
Not based off my math, more like 37%. PR and DJ funds are funded annually, the WDFW budget is biannually. In 2018 WDFW got $22 million in PR and DJ funds, so if you double that to $44M and add that to the $118M WDFW got from the Wildlife fund in 2017-19 you're actually sitting at around 37% funded from PR, DJ, and license fees (total budget was $437M). Also need to remember that there are a lot of non-hunters who do contribute to PR based off the items they buy.

Nobody in DNR, Parks or WDFW want the agencies to merge. That was a Gregoire push back in the recession.

 Again, can you share figures prior to the landslide downfall after 1995?
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WDFW 2017-19 budget which ended July 1:
27% came from license fees
21% came from state general fund/taxes
62% came from the feds, local government or private sector

10 years earlier in 2007-09:
31% came from state general fund/taxes
18% came from license fees
61% came from the feds, local government or private sector
It is unfortunate  that so many folks do not link the PR funds to sportsmen especially since the payout formulation is based off it. If you link PR funds that 27 look closer to 47%.   

I am.befuddled that sportsmen can contribute so little according to the department and yet they can do so much more for us than if we merged parks, dnr and Wildlife. 
Not based off my math, more like 37%. PR and DJ funds are funded annually, the WDFW budget is biannually. In 2018 WDFW got $22 million in PR and DJ funds, so if you double that to $44M and add that to the $118M WDFW got from the Wildlife fund in 2017-19 you're actually sitting at around 37% funded from PR, DJ, and license fees (total budget was $437M). Also need to remember that there are a lot of non-hunters who do contribute to PR based off the items they buy.

Nobody in DNR, Parks or WDFW want the agencies to merge. That was a Gregoire push back in the recession.
Again, can you share figures prior to the landslide downfall after 1995?
Again, can you? I highly doubt you were an expert in the two agencies budget prior to the merger, so if I have to backup my claims, why don't you?

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WDFW 2017-19 budget which ended July 1:
27% came from license fees
21% came from state general fund/taxes
62% came from the feds, local government or private sector

10 years earlier in 2007-09:
31% came from state general fund/taxes
18% came from license fees
61% came from the feds, local government or private sector
It is unfortunate  that so many folks do not link the PR funds to sportsmen especially since the payout formulation is based off it. If you link PR funds that 27 look closer to 47%.   

I am.befuddled that sportsmen can contribute so little according to the department and yet they can do so much more for us than if we merged parks, dnr and Wildlife. 
Not based off my math, more like 37%. PR and DJ funds are funded annually, the WDFW budget is biannually. In 2018 WDFW got $22 million in PR and DJ funds, so if you double that to $44M and add that to the $118M WDFW got from the Wildlife fund in 2017-19 you're actually sitting at around 37% funded from PR, DJ, and license fees (total budget was $437M). Also need to remember that there are a lot of non-hunters who do contribute to PR based off the items they buy.

Nobody in DNR, Parks or WDFW want the agencies to merge. That was a Gregoire push back in the recession.
Again, can you share figures prior to the landslide downfall after 1995?
Again, can you? I highly doubt you were an expert in the two agencies budget prior to the merger, so if I have to backup my claims, why don't you?

 I’ve gone back through your posts. Its amazing that not once have you acknowledged anything negative about WDFW...even though there are countless examples. This suggests you have zero fair-minded or unbiased opinion regarding this issue.
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WDFW 2017-19 budget which ended July 1:
27% came from license fees
21% came from state general fund/taxes
62% came from the feds, local government or private sector

10 years earlier in 2007-09:
31% came from state general fund/taxes
18% came from license fees
61% came from the feds, local government or private sector
It is unfortunate  that so many folks do not link the PR funds to sportsmen especially since the payout formulation is based off it. If you link PR funds that 27 look closer to 47%.   

I am.befuddled that sportsmen can contribute so little according to the department and yet they can do so much more for us than if we merged parks, dnr and Wildlife. 
Not based off my math, more like 37%. PR and DJ funds are funded annually, the WDFW budget is biannually. In 2018 WDFW got $22 million in PR and DJ funds, so if you double that to $44M and add that to the $118M WDFW got from the Wildlife fund in 2017-19 you're actually sitting at around 37% funded from PR, DJ, and license fees (total budget was $437M). Also need to remember that there are a lot of non-hunters who do contribute to PR based off the items they buy.

Nobody in DNR, Parks or WDFW want the agencies to merge. That was a Gregoire push back in the recession.
Again, can you share figures prior to the landslide downfall after 1995?
Again, can you? I highly doubt you were an expert in the two agencies budget prior to the merger, so if I have to backup my claims, why don't you?
I’ve gone back through your posts. Its amazing that not once have you acknowledged anything negative about WDFW...even though there are countless examples. This suggests you have zero fair-minded or unbiased opinion regarding this issue.
Nice subject change there. If you actually knew me or read some of the 9,000 posts I've done on here you would know I consistently call WDFW out. Sorry I am not like you and others where 100% of my posts are anti-WDFW.

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WDFW 2017-19 budget which ended July 1:
27% came from license fees
21% came from state general fund/taxes
62% came from the feds, local government or private sector

10 years earlier in 2007-09:
31% came from state general fund/taxes
18% came from license fees
61% came from the feds, local government or private sector
It is unfortunate  that so many folks do not link the PR funds to sportsmen especially since the payout formulation is based off it. If you link PR funds that 27 look closer to 47%.   

I am.befuddled that sportsmen can contribute so little according to the department and yet they can do so much more for us than if we merged parks, dnr and Wildlife. 
Not based off my math, more like 37%. PR and DJ funds are funded annually, the WDFW budget is biannually. In 2018 WDFW got $22 million in PR and DJ funds, so if you double that to $44M and add that to the $118M WDFW got from the Wildlife fund in 2017-19 you're actually sitting at around 37% funded from PR, DJ, and license fees (total budget was $437M). Also need to remember that there are a lot of non-hunters who do contribute to PR based off the items they buy.

Nobody in DNR, Parks or WDFW want the agencies to merge. That was a Gregoire push back in the recession.
Again, can you share figures prior to the landslide downfall after 1995?
Again, can you? I highly doubt you were an expert in the two agencies budget prior to the merger, so if I have to backup my claims, why don't you?
I’ve gone back through your posts. Its amazing that not once have you acknowledged anything negative about WDFW...even though there are countless examples. This suggests you have zero fair-minded or unbiased opinion regarding this issue.
Nice subject change there. If you actually knew me or read some of the 9,000 posts I've done on here you would know I consistently call WDFW out. Sorry I am not like you and others where 100% of my posts are anti-WDFW.

  :chuckle: Post count means nothing, at 28k myself your comment is moot.

 In my 28k+ comments, you will see I give loads of credit and thanks to WDFW officers, don’t even try to twist it! ;)
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WDFW 2017-19 budget which ended July 1:
27% came from license fees
21% came from state general fund/taxes
62% came from the feds, local government or private sector

10 years earlier in 2007-09:
31% came from state general fund/taxes
18% came from license fees
61% came from the feds, local government or private sector
It is unfortunate  that so many folks do not link the PR funds to sportsmen especially since the payout formulation is based off it. If you link PR funds that 27 look closer to 47%.   

I am.befuddled that sportsmen can contribute so little according to the department and yet they can do so much more for us than if we merged parks, dnr and Wildlife. 
Not based off my math, more like 37%. PR and DJ funds are funded annually, the WDFW budget is biannually. In 2018 WDFW got $22 million in PR and DJ funds, so if you double that to $44M and add that to the $118M WDFW got from the Wildlife fund in 2017-19 you're actually sitting at around 37% funded from PR, DJ, and license fees (total budget was $437M). Also need to remember that there are a lot of non-hunters who do contribute to PR based off the items they buy.

Nobody in DNR, Parks or WDFW want the agencies to merge. That was a Gregoire push back in the recession.
Again, can you share figures prior to the landslide downfall after 1995?
Again, can you? I highly doubt you were an expert in the two agencies budget prior to the merger, so if I have to backup my claims, why don't you?
I’ve gone back through your posts. Its amazing that not once have you acknowledged anything negative about WDFW...even though there are countless examples. This suggests you have zero fair-minded or unbiased opinion regarding this issue.
Nice subject change there. If you actually knew me or read some of the 9,000 posts I've done on here you would know I consistently call WDFW out. Sorry I am not like you and others where 100% of my posts are anti-WDFW.

 How about you post up just “one” of your critical opinions of WDFW fees being raised, questioning why it’s necessary! ;)

 I’m gong to bed so take your time, going through 9000 posts will take a while. :chuckle:
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Every time a semi-auto rifle is transferred, the state gets $18 into the general fund.

There getting a good chunk of the pie of those sales. Seems like the general fund needs to be generally re-vamped!
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