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It may not specifically say the entire hide is required, but it sure doesnt say a portion of the hide is acceptable. It says the hide, not a part of the hide. That pretty clearly implies the whole thing to me.
Harvest Check, Submitting Biological Samples and Bear Teeth: All successful bear hunters must validate (notch) their bear tag, notify the department within 72 hours of kill (excluding legal state holidays), provide the hunter's name, date and location of kill, and sex of animal. The raw pelt, evidence of sex, and the first premolar must be presented to an authorized department employee for sealing within 5 days of notification of kill. All permit hunters must comply with harvest reporting and submission of biological samples as described above. Failure to comply with the submission of biological samples is a misdemeanor pursuant to RCW 77.15.280.https://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=220-415-080
Quote from: Bango skank on April 08, 2020, 05:44:23 PMIt may not specifically say the entire hide is required, but it sure doesnt say a portion of the hide is acceptable. It says the hide, not a part of the hide. That pretty clearly implies the whole thing to me. So define the hide then? This will be fun since there is no definition that I can find in the regs. What if I just want the portion from the bear’s back? Would I get in trouble for removing the legs, what about removing the feet or head? I think they leave it up to interpretation for a reason. At the very least, good luck with that holding up if they pressed charges. Again Bango. You never responded to my previous questions. “Try backpack hunting 5-15 miles back into the wilderness for bears in some steep ass country and tell me how it goes for you. Are you trying to reduce the number of bears taken in a few remote units, because your logic would do that. Do you have any idea what a mature bear hide weighs? Have you even killed a bear and broken one down?” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: slim9300 on April 08, 2020, 06:53:57 PMQuote from: Bango skank on April 08, 2020, 05:44:23 PMIt may not specifically say the entire hide is required, but it sure doesnt say a portion of the hide is acceptable. It says the hide, not a part of the hide. That pretty clearly implies the whole thing to me. So define the hide then? This will be fun since there is no definition that I can find in the regs. What if I just want the portion from the bear’s back? Would I get in trouble for removing the legs, what about removing the feet or head? I think they leave it up to interpretation for a reason. At the very least, good luck with that holding up if they pressed charges. Again Bango. You never responded to my previous questions. “Try backpack hunting 5-15 miles back into the wilderness for bears in some steep ass country and tell me how it goes for you. Are you trying to reduce the number of bears taken in a few remote units, because your logic would do that. Do you have any idea what a mature bear hide weighs? Have you even killed a bear and broken one down?” Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNo, ive never killed a bear, ive never broke one down, and ive never packed one out in pueces on my back. Im not half the man you are. Maybe someday.
It looks like logic and common sense prevails in IDAHO. Eventually I will pose the same question to WA F&G. Since it doesn’t effect my hunting plans in the near future, I am not in a hurry. Update: I spoke with biologist Brian Knoth in the Clearwater Regional Office. He was very friendly and helpful. He had to pose my question to the officer at that location George Fischer and call me back. I explained that I would be in the remote backcountry and planned on taking out the skull and meat (I wanted them to know that I wasn’t being wasteful) but that I wanted to take the partial hide that included proof of sex in the event the hide wasn’t good or if I was too far back in. When I received a call back, the answer was as follows: You can absolutely take a partial hide in ID as long as it includes proof of sex. You can also take the partial skull. Only the lower jaw is necessary for check in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: slim9300 on April 10, 2020, 12:25:38 PMIt looks like logic and common sense prevails in IDAHO. Eventually I will pose the same question to WA F&G. Since it doesn’t effect my hunting plans in the near future, I am not in a hurry. Update: I spoke with biologist Brian Knoth in the Clearwater Regional Office. He was very friendly and helpful. He had to pose my question to the officer at that location George Fischer and call me back. I explained that I would be in the remote backcountry and planned on taking out the skull and meat (I wanted them to know that I wasn’t being wasteful) but that I wanted to take the partial hide that included proof of sex in the event the hide wasn’t good or if I was too far back in. When I received a call back, the answer was as follows: You can absolutely take a partial hide in ID as long as it includes proof of sex. You can also take the partial skull. Only the lower jaw is necessary for check in. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thanks for updating good to know. I will still pack out entire Bear because I am not a woosie seriously thanks for the update I was convinced whole hide required
I take it as whole hide. A "raw pelt: is not a patch of fur. I think they want to check the mammary glands for milk is part of this as well.