AR mod question

[konradcountry]

LOL at people suggesting 2 stage $200 triggers when he wants a budget 1 stage.

These are actually really good
https://www.righttobear.com/Enhanced-Nickel-Teflon-Trigger-Assembly-p/enta-01.htm

Only problem is that they are often out of stock.

Uhm,
The LaRue MBt-S1 is a single stage trigger that costs $80!
Fantastic trigger!

Was referring to the Geissele. Hiperfire is another good option for around the same price as the Larue.

[Alchase]

LOL at people suggesting 2 stage $200 triggers when he wants a budget 1 stage.

These are actually really good
https://www.righttobear.com/Enhanced-Nickel-Teflon-Trigger-Assembly-p/enta-01.htm

Only problem is that they are often out of stock.

Uhm,
The LaRue MBt-S1 is a single stage trigger that costs $80!
Fantastic trigger!

Was referring to the Geissele. Hiperfire is another good option for around the same price as the Larue.

 

[huntandjeep]

Larue is hands down best bang for the buck .

[Yondering]

For budget triggers - Larue MBT if you want a 2 stage, or Rise Armament if you want a single stage. Both are good and won't break the bank.

Don't waste your money on an ALG or other coated mil-spec type trigger if you're interested in an actual good trigger. They are lighter, but still have a mile of creep.

And I really very strongly recommend NOT sanding on your AR trigger. It's not a bolt gun trigger, and if you don't know what you're doing you can easily end up with a trigger that loses control, bad news. I have improved quite a few AR triggers and it can be done with the addition of several set screws along with careful stoning and adjustment, but that's some more advanced work than most here have the ability to do I think. It's a lot easier to mess up an AR trigger than it is to make one good. Just drop $80-$100 and buy a good one.

[konradcountry]

Don't waste your money on an ALG or other coated mil-spec type trigger if you're interested in an actual good trigger. They are lighter, but still have a mile of creep.

There is no rule that states you must spend XX to get a trigger without creep. It's a mechanical process.

Reminds me of a friend that told me I'd never get sub MOA with a stock stag trigger. I didn't tell him I already was.

Not all mil spec triggers are built the same and there are tons of reviews on coated triggers where people say they are no longer going to spend $200 after trying one.

[Yondering]

Don't waste your money on an ALG or other coated mil-spec type trigger if you're interested in an actual good trigger. They are lighter, but still have a mile of creep.

There is no rule that states you must spend XX to get a trigger without creep. It's a mechanical process.

Reminds me of a friend that told me I'd never get sub MOA with a stock stag trigger. I didn't tell him I already was.

Not all mil spec triggers are built the same and there are tons of reviews on coated triggers where people say they are no longer going to spend $200 after trying one.

I didn't say anything about a rule on how much to spend. I did say there are a few good options for $80-$100.

Have you used the ALG or other coated mil-spec style triggers? I have. They all have just as much creep as stock mil-spec triggers, they are just lighter. If you look at (and understand) the design, it's obvious why. Yes they vary, but the design requires a large amount of creep and relatively heavy trigger pull, even with special coatings. Some people are happy with that, but the OP said he wanted a good trigger; those aren't a "good" trigger they are just a small improvement over stock, nothing more.
I'm speaking of experience here, not just repeating what I've read online or claiming whatever I bought is better, as so many people do. I do a lot with trigger improvements, on every rifle and pistol I own, which includes quite a few ARs, so my intention is to answer the OP with what I know will work well for him rather than just saying what I've heard or validating my own purchases. If he asked how to make a stock AR trigger light and crisp I can show him that too, but it's a lot more involved than most people can do, and for the amount of work put in he's better off spending $100 or so.

[adamR]

Don't waste your money on an ALG or other coated mil-spec type trigger if you're interested in an actual good trigger. They are lighter, but still have a mile of creep.

There is no rule that states you must spend XX to get a trigger without creep. It's a mechanical process.

Reminds me of a friend that told me I'd never get sub MOA with a stock stag trigger. I didn't tell him I already was.

Not all mil spec triggers are built the same and there are tons of reviews on coated triggers where people say they are no longer going to spend $200 after trying one.

I didn't say anything about a rule on how much to spend. I did say there are a few good options for $80-$100.

Have you used the ALG or other coated mil-spec style triggers? I have. They all have just as much creep as stock mil-spec triggers, they are just lighter. If you look at (and understand) the design, it's obvious why. Yes they vary, but the design requires a large amount of creep and relatively heavy trigger pull, even with special coatings. Some people are happy with that, but the OP said he wanted a good trigger; those aren't a "good" trigger they are just a small improvement over stock, nothing more.
I'm speaking of experience here, not just repeating what I've read online or claiming whatever I bought is better, as so many people do. I do a lot with trigger improvements, on every rifle and pistol I own, which includes quite a few ARs, so my intention is to answer the OP with what I know will work well for him rather than just saying what I've heard or validating my own purchases. If he asked how to make a stock AR trigger light and crisp I can show him that too, but it's a lot more involved than most people can do, and for the amount of work put in he's better off spending $100 or so.

If the OP is in the market for a low budget trigger, a $60 ALG is an improvement over mil-spec.  I didn't say it was a great trigger and certainly didn't give him an option for a $200 trigger.  My first trigger upgrade was low budget and for the money, I'm very happy with the ALG as I wasn't willing to "work" on the mil-spec trigger.  He can keep the trigger pull of mil-spec or drop down to 4.5 - 5 if he chooses. 

[konradcountry]

Have you used the ALG or other coated mil-spec style triggers? I have. They all have just as much creep as stock mil-spec triggers, they are just lighter. If you look at (and understand) the design, it's obvious why. Yes they vary, but the design requires a large amount of creep and relatively heavy trigger pull, even with special coatings. Some people are happy with that, but the OP said he wanted a good trigger; those aren't a "good" trigger they are just a small improvement over stock, nothing more.

Yes I have used the right to bear teflon trigger. It is better than some $200 triggers I have tried and there are few dozen reviews where others say the same thing. Is it my first choice? No but it doesn't make sense to argue that they can't reduce the creep in a $40 trigger when you can get a $10 screw adjuster to do the same thing.

Read the reviews for yourself:
https://www.righttobear.com/Enhanced-Nickel-Teflon-Trigger-Assembly-p/enta-01.htm

[pat2bear]

Thanks everyone lots of good info. I’ll start checking these out.

[Yondering]

Don't waste your money on an ALG or other coated mil-spec type trigger if you're interested in an actual good trigger. They are lighter, but still have a mile of creep.

There is no rule that states you must spend XX to get a trigger without creep. It's a mechanical process.

Reminds me of a friend that told me I'd never get sub MOA with a stock stag trigger. I didn't tell him I already was.

Not all mil spec triggers are built the same and there are tons of reviews on coated triggers where people say they are no longer going to spend $200 after trying one.

I didn't say anything about a rule on how much to spend. I did say there are a few good options for $80-$100.

Have you used the ALG or other coated mil-spec style triggers? I have. They all have just as much creep as stock mil-spec triggers, they are just lighter. If you look at (and understand) the design, it's obvious why. Yes they vary, but the design requires a large amount of creep and relatively heavy trigger pull, even with special coatings. Some people are happy with that, but the OP said he wanted a good trigger; those aren't a "good" trigger they are just a small improvement over stock, nothing more.
I'm speaking of experience here, not just repeating what I've read online or claiming whatever I bought is better, as so many people do. I do a lot with trigger improvements, on every rifle and pistol I own, which includes quite a few ARs, so my intention is to answer the OP with what I know will work well for him rather than just saying what I've heard or validating my own purchases. If he asked how to make a stock AR trigger light and crisp I can show him that too, but it's a lot more involved than most people can do, and for the amount of work put in he's better off spending $100 or so.

If the OP is in the market for a low budget trigger, a $60 ALG is an improvement over mil-spec.  I didn't say it was a great trigger and certainly didn't give him an option for a $200 trigger.  My first trigger upgrade was low budget and for the money, I'm very happy with the ALG as I wasn't willing to "work" on the mil-spec trigger.  He can keep the trigger pull of mil-spec or drop down to 4.5 - 5 if he chooses.

You can spend $60 for a mediocre ALG trigger, or $80 for an excellent Larue. Seems like you'd have to be pretty hard up for cash to make the ALG seem like the right choice.

[hunter399]

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