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I was just looking through the next wdfw commission meeting agenda, and to save money, looks like they are proposing to close many fish Hatcheries. YEEKS
Hatcheries listed:
Close six salmon and steelhead hatcheries, including:
Forks Creek, Nemah, Reiter, Tokul Creek, Mayr Bros, and
Whitehorse hatcheries
Closure of Elwha, Toutle, and Skamania hatcheries
Close four trout hatcheries, including: Arlington, Chelan,
Naches, and Mossyrock hatcheries.
https://wdfw.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2020-07/7_july31_2020_2021-23perflevel.pdf
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 02:13:45 PM »
F that! They should forego the wolf research and channel those funds in to hatchery production!
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 02:17:23 PM »
I wonder what the Tribes are gonna say about that... Didnt they just have some kind of agreement to get past ESA fish requirements?
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 02:22:04 PM »
That's pretty typical. Keep limiting fish production and oh now we got no fish to fish for. Bye bye salmon and steelhead. Seems like salmon and steelhead are always first on the list to reduce opportunity. Also get rid of warmwater species because they compete with salmon. Now we just have nothing to fish for. Hurray wdfw for a great job managing money and your wildlife.
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 02:28:42 PM »
I hope this is just a scare tactic. Last year they were all set to boost chinook for the orcas.
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 02:37:24 PM »
It's a scare tactic, just like every time they want more money. They never threaten to cut things nobody cares about.
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 02:45:37 PM »
The one thing I can say about the tokul hatchery is steelhead returns in my opinion arent even worth it. Look at the returns. They aren't even getting 100 fish a year to return to the hatchery.
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 02:49:24 PM »
What would a scare tactic like this accomplish?
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 03:19:38 PM »
To try and get the legislature to give them general fund money and/or strong arm the legislature into passing the fee increase that has gotten requested but rejected the last few years.
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 03:23:52 PM »
Scare tactic. Good thought but I'm not convinced. Usually seems like when a thought or proposal is put out there its either everything listed or more. Once its put out there usually it happens.
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July 29, 2020, 03:24:19 PM »
Hope for the best but fear the worst.
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 03:31:47 PM »
Budget issues were caused by Inslee screwing with the state economy. He caused the shortage.
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 03:34:20 PM »
Look at the cuts to hatcheries: Forks Creek, Nemah, and Mayr Brothers. All mainly benefit commercial fishers and are located in Brian Blake's district. Brian Blake is a known commercial fisheries advocate and chairs the house Rural Development, Agriculture, and Natural Resources Committee. Brian Blake has historically been the bread winner for WDFW and, in exchange, WDFW scratched his back by providing for his pet constituents. That's been changing.
Tokul and Reiter are important to Puget Sound fishers as basically the only steelhead hatcheries left in PS that may support a fishery.
Whitehorse is stilly chinook? Without those fish, PS fisheries would be almost impossible (for example, they are the purported reason all blackmouth fishing was closed this year) and that hatchery is keeping that strain alive. Is it even feasible to do away with it? Can WDFW let those ESA listed fish go extinct? I think not and I suspect we'll see.
The list has little to do with cost savings and everything to do with make sure the outcry is too big to allow the cut. It's all about the money.
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July 29, 2020, 03:45:05 PM »
WSU that's a lot of good points.
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Re: WDFW proposed Hatchery Closure
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July 29, 2020, 03:47:16 PM »
Doubt it's a scare tactic. They're trying to make the Toutle a "Natural Native" river and have been. Eliminate the hatchery, accomplish "their" goal! Very sad!
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