Leftover Multi-Season

[BULLBLASTER]

Expect them to sell out even faster if wdfw goes through with allowing scopes on muzzleloaders.

We can just call it early single shot rifle season.

[PA BEN]

Why would it cost the same for resident and non-residents?

[Bango skank]

Why would it cost the same for resident and non-residents?

They still have to pay the outrageous non resident deer license fee which is around 450, plus 110 for the multi season app, so a non resident would still be paying far out the ass for a poor quality product.  Really dont think wdfw sells a lot of multi apps to non residents.

[duckmen1]

Expect them to sell out even faster if wdfw goes through with allowing scopes on muzzleloaders.

We can just call it early single shot rifle season.

Reload and maintain a single shot rifle. Then do the same with a muzzleloader. Not even close to the same.
If you wore glasses for a near sighted vision issue it would make individuals understand better. Me personally I have a hard time focusing my sight picture with my target due to eye sight. And a 1 power scope would help with that.

[BULLBLASTER]

Expect them to sell out even faster if wdfw goes through with allowing scopes on muzzleloaders.

We can just call it early single shot rifle season.

Reload and maintain a single shot rifle. Then do the same with a muzzleloader. Not even close to the same.

A scope certainly adds substantial range to a muzzle loader. Reloading take a minute tops. A scoped muzzy could easily be a 400+ yard killer.

[ctwiggs1]

Expect them to sell out even faster if wdfw goes through with allowing scopes on muzzleloaders.

We can just call it early single shot rifle season.

Reload and maintain a single shot rifle. Then do the same with a muzzleloader. Not even close to the same.

A scope certainly adds substantial range to a muzzle loader. Reloading take a minute tops. A scoped muzzy could easily be a 400+ yard killer.

My longest reload ever was last year after I had just shot an elk.  I popped another round in "just in case" (didn't end up needing it).  I think it took me 2 minutes or so... Apparently my steel nerves turn to nothing after I see the animal on the ground 

[duckmen1]

I don't believe in putting a high powered scope on a muzzleloader season. With that being said due you all think 1 powered scopes really add that much difference to you distance to shoot. I have a 1 powered site system on my muzzy. Its called peep site. Only real difference is it doesn't have the glass. Still the same site picture as far as magnification goes.


I can reload quick too with a muzzleloader. But no one can reload as quick as if they are using a single shot rifle. Also the maintenance in a muzzleloader is no comparison. And muzzleloaders are reliable but could never be considered as reliable as a center fire rifle.

[millerwheeler]

Expect them to sell out even faster if wdfw goes through with allowing scopes on muzzleloaders.

What makes you think they will go this route been a real stern not a chance in the paste

[Bango skank]

Expect them to sell out even faster if wdfw goes through with allowing scopes on muzzleloaders.

What makes you think they will go this route been a real stern not a chance in the paste

I dont think they will, but the proposal is up. 

[BULLBLASTER]

I don't believe in putting a high powered scope on a muzzleloader season. With that being said due you all think 1 powered scopes really add that much difference to you distance to shoot. I have a 1 powered site system on my muzzy. Its called peep site. Only real difference is it doesn't have the glass. Still the same site picture as far as magnification goes.


I can reload quick too with a muzzleloader. But no one can reload as quick as if they are using a single shot rifle. Also the maintenance in a muzzleloader is no comparison. And muzzleloaders are reliable but could never be considered as reliable as a center fire rifle.

The sight picture from even a 1x scope is vastly different than a peep sight. You vave precise crosshairs and not a bead that covers half the deer. Not to mention the ability to dial turrets to shot further with the precise aiming crosshairs.

As for the reliability, i have shot my knight 15 times in a row with exactly zero maintenance between shots. Load and shoot and repeat. Sure it gets tough to load after a few but still works.
You are correct tho its not as fast as a rifle.

In all you must have missed the sarcastic tone of my early single shot rifle season post.

I do think that any scopes are a terrible idea on muzzys as currently the sighting system is the limiting factor.

[WSU]

There's no question a scope is an advantage, even if it's 1x power.  Better sight picture, quicker on target, easier to aim correctly, doesn't cover up the target, etc.  Sights are definitely the limiting factor with the present regulations.

[duckmen1]

I'm just playing devils advocate. Using posts to try to bring different thoughts to the topic. Not singling anyone out with my replies.
Good point on using a turret system though. Didnt think of that.

[duckmen1]

With the power of a muzzleloader projectile I would never shoot a muzzleloader 400 plus yards at an animal. Energy levels drop very quickly. Its not only about site picture with shooting distances but what would energy levels be at that distance.
Thats where I difference with the scopes alot. People think I can see so I can shoot that far.

[duckmen1]

I guess then again if someones one of the150 gr charge lifted truck magnum shooting compensating hunter that could make some difference. Lots of variables.

[WSU]

I wouldn't shoot it 400 either.  But I'd be a lot more likely to shoot an elk at 200 with a scope than I would be without one.