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Heres the deal, 1x is not a huge difference but will help me. I have missed good animals with a small micro front and williams peep. I am a good shot (better with cross hairs). I am excited for making a "better" shot at 160 yds where I can be more comfortable...not having the bright green dot cover half the animal.I spent 3 weeks scouring every site out there (ebay, CL, midway, optic planet, google, forums). Im just glad I found mine as there were at least a 100 dudes ahead of me with the same plan. There is a cheap 1x out there being made that is still available Vector Optics Wrangler.
I started looking 3 weeks before this thread started up. Found a Weaver on ebay and 4 TC's on Gun Broker in 10 minutes. Yup, bought em all. Capitalism at it's finest.
1x Scopes will definitely help with better light transmission in lowlight conditions. Especially the higher quality brands with better optics coatings.For those wanting a scope for "eyesight" reasons if you are having trouble focusing with your peep sight, consider using one of these Merit adjustable aperture peep inserts. Hunting Disc #4 fits most threaded insert peeps from Williams and others. My muzzleloader setup is a rear peep with Merit #4 adjustable peep insert, and front globe sight with crosshairs and the crosshairs are painted with glow-in-the-dark gunsight paint for better visibility in dawn/dusk lowlight conditions. For those without eyesight issues, these apertures still help your eyes focus on the crosshairs and target at the same time for longer range shots (within ballistical reason of course...it's still a slow fat 45 cal/50 cal bullet travelling downrange). The Merit peep insert and front crosshairs dramatically improved my accuracy with the muzzleloader.http://www.meritcorporation.com/how_they_work.htmlhttp://www.meritcorporation.com/products.html
None of those are what I'm waiting for.
Quote from: millerwheeler on March 24, 2021, 10:19:17 AMQuote from: GWP on March 24, 2021, 07:11:02 AMhttps://www.seeallopensight.comThis sight was brought up a couple times but did not get a lot of discussion. While it DOES NOT MAGNIFY THE TARGET, there is a magnifying lens built into it that amplifies the INTERNAL triangle that becomes the forward sight. It actually is an open sight with '0' magnification, but there IS a glass magnifying lens that is part of the sight.I had a similar 'sort' of sight on a bow that eliminated the peep sight in the string and the big ring on the bow. It had two internal rings that you would center to be on target. It was smaller than the ring/peep set up, and for my eyes, easier to use. It was called an 'Anchor Point'. I would use one of the SeeAll sights on a muzzle loader, but would wonder if they would think it 'illegal' as there is a glass, magnifying lens built into it, even though it DOES NOT MAGNIFY THE TARGET.Used this site on my knight and is legal already didn’t care for it personally but have a friend that loves itI would disagree with the statement that it is already legal. Last years regulations say that a sight containing glass is prohibited, Although it is an "open" sight it does contain glass. I may be wrong, I'm no expert. I would imagine these would be legal if the changes go through, and a very interesting design, but a lot different than a 1x scope.
Quote from: GWP on March 24, 2021, 07:11:02 AMhttps://www.seeallopensight.comThis sight was brought up a couple times but did not get a lot of discussion. While it DOES NOT MAGNIFY THE TARGET, there is a magnifying lens built into it that amplifies the INTERNAL triangle that becomes the forward sight. It actually is an open sight with '0' magnification, but there IS a glass magnifying lens that is part of the sight.I had a similar 'sort' of sight on a bow that eliminated the peep sight in the string and the big ring on the bow. It had two internal rings that you would center to be on target. It was smaller than the ring/peep set up, and for my eyes, easier to use. It was called an 'Anchor Point'. I would use one of the SeeAll sights on a muzzle loader, but would wonder if they would think it 'illegal' as there is a glass, magnifying lens built into it, even though it DOES NOT MAGNIFY THE TARGET.Used this site on my knight and is legal already didn’t care for it personally but have a friend that loves it
https://www.seeallopensight.comThis sight was brought up a couple times but did not get a lot of discussion. While it DOES NOT MAGNIFY THE TARGET, there is a magnifying lens built into it that amplifies the INTERNAL triangle that becomes the forward sight. It actually is an open sight with '0' magnification, but there IS a glass magnifying lens that is part of the sight.I had a similar 'sort' of sight on a bow that eliminated the peep sight in the string and the big ring on the bow. It had two internal rings that you would center to be on target. It was smaller than the ring/peep set up, and for my eyes, easier to use. It was called an 'Anchor Point'. I would use one of the SeeAll sights on a muzzle loader, but would wonder if they would think it 'illegal' as there is a glass, magnifying lens built into it, even though it DOES NOT MAGNIFY THE TARGET.
Quote from: Ghost Hunter on March 25, 2021, 05:00:11 PMNone of those are what I'm waiting for.What are you waiting for, a quality one? They are all BB gun scopes. We all want a NF but those are long gone. Gunwerks had a small line on them 10 years ago. We would all give 600 or more for one. Not trying to be negative.