Crabbing or razor clam openings?

[Moe the Sleaze]

I do not trust the state with its Domoic acid testing. Why all the local differences from time to time.? Are all the beaches being tested at the same labs, by the same technicians, using the same methodology? Correctly?

Or do the sometimes widely varying numbers/trends just indicate the sample is being tested by some "newbie", using the wrong reagent/chemistry/procedure?

Or that the state finds this an easy way to manipulate the masses....

My BS indicator always beeps when this testing comes up.

[GASoline71]

This isn't the first time that Domoic Acid levels and PSP have been high for almost an entire clamming season.  Covid or no Covid... you don't want to eat tainted clams or crabs.

Gary

Yeah, if history is an indicator, it could be around for much longer than any of us want to think about.

I know my memory is bad but at 51 I don't ever recall closures this long due to acid levels.

2002 was one I believe and 2015ish was another.

Gary

[Sitka_Blacktail]

I do not trust the state with its Domoic acid testing. Why all the local differences from time to time.? Are all the beaches being tested at the same labs, by the same technicians, using the same methodology? Correctly?

Or do the sometimes widely varying numbers/trends just indicate the sample is being tested by some "newbie", using the wrong reagent/chemistry/procedure?

Or that the state finds this an easy way to manipulate the masses....

My BS indicator always beeps when this testing comes up.

You really think the State doesn't want the beaches open? Biggest survey of clams they've ever had.... They even started the season early this year to take advantage of it.  The Quinaults are shut down and they are part of the management and testing regime. You think they want to be shut down? Or do you think they are part of some conspiracy? Good grief.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

This isn't the first time that Domoic Acid levels and PSP have been high for almost an entire clamming season.  Covid or no Covid... you don't want to eat tainted clams or crabs.

Gary

Yeah, if history is an indicator, it could be around for much longer than any of us want to think about.

I know my memory is bad but at 51 I don't ever recall closures this long due to acid levels.

2002 was one I believe and 2015ish was another.

Gary

Go back farther and it was NIX....... Nuclear Inclusion X.

[Moe the Sleaze]

I do not trust the state with its Domoic acid testing. Why all the local differences from time to time.? Are all the beaches being tested at the same labs, by the same technicians, using the same methodology? Correctly?

Or do the sometimes widely varying numbers/trends just indicate the sample is being tested by some "newbie", using the wrong reagent/chemistry/procedure?

Or that the state finds this an easy way to manipulate the masses....

My BS indicator always beeps when this testing comes up.

You really think the State doesn't want the beaches open? Biggest survey of clams they've ever had.... They even started the season early this year to take advantage of it.  The Quinaults are shut down and they are part of the management and testing regime. You think they want to be shut down? Or do you think they are part of some conspiracy? Good grief.

I do not know why they wouldn't want the beaches open. I suspect there is no conspiracy. All I know is my BS indicator beeped. Just sayin.

[NRA4LIFE]

OR and BC were in the same situation as of a couple weeks ago. Haven't checked since then. I doubt seriously they are all holding out for some nefarious reason. If it were safe,  the beaches would be open.

[Encore 280]

There must be some type of fishery going on out of Westport. I check the Westport Live Web cam quite a bit and see what appears to be crabbers going out and coming every couple of days. Just watched one come in a few minutes ago. I've seen as many as 5 out there at one time heading for the deep blue. Damned if I know.

[Stein]

10,000 - 20,000 reasons for them to open it in the form of licenses.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

There must be some type of fishery going on out of Westport. I check the Westport Live Web cam quite a bit and see what appears to be crabbers going out and coming every couple of days. Just watched one come in a few minutes ago. I've seen as many as 5 out there at one time heading for the deep blue. Damned if I know.

Could be boats that fish Oregon. Maybe they are running crab up to Westport to deliver.

[brew]

i called a place in westport a couple days ago and they are getting crab from Oregon.  Called a place in Olympia and he said their crab is from Blaine

[GASoline71]

This isn't the first time that Domoic Acid levels and PSP have been high for almost an entire clamming season.  Covid or no Covid... you don't want to eat tainted clams or crabs.

Gary

Yeah, if history is an indicator, it could be around for much longer than any of us want to think about.

I know my memory is bad but at 51 I don't ever recall closures this long due to acid levels.

2002 was one I believe and 2015ish was another.

Gary

Go back farther and it was NIX....... Nuclear Inclusion X.

Oh there are more lengthy season closures due to toxins if you go further into the archives... just didn't feel the need to post them all.

Gary

[Encore 280]

Doesn't seem very cost affective to me to be running from Westport all the way to Oregon and back to Westport to deliver crab unless they're getting a really really good price for the product. Something fishy going on. 

[msg]

I stayed in Birch Bay a couple of summers ago while working. Birch Bay has a very good population of butters, steamers and some horse clams. I followed WDFW website almost daily hoping they would open it up. Every clam beach from Birch Bay to Southern Hoods Canal was closed due to poor water quality. I don't remember their terminology. However none of the commercial operations were closed for business. They finally did open it up for about a month. There must be much better water at Taylor Shellfish and others!

[lastmk8]

sWho knows when we will get to dig the Razor's again.  I do know they have had hardly any attention in 11 months so if we get to finally get out there, who knows what we will come out with.  Until then, I'm loading up on those little steamers, couple of limits yesterday afternoon, and don't know that today will be any different.

[Sitka_Blacktail]

Doesn't seem very cost affective to me to be running from Westport all the way to Oregon and back to Westport to deliver crab unless they're getting a really really good price for the product. Something fishy going on. 

Chuckle all you want, It's closer to Oregon from Westport than is it to Kalaloch, let alone La Push Or Cape Flattery. In fact from Westport, it's not much farther to Oregon than it is to Taholah.  The distance from Westport to La Push is about equal distance as Westport to Nehalem, Oregon, and Tillamook isn't much farther.  And from Tillamook, it's about 50 more miles to Newport.  Newport to Westport is about 150 miles or less than a day's run for most crab boats. If you pack 50,000 lbs of crab and you have a market in Westport that will pay you 50 cent a lb more than you can get in Newport, believe me, you will run your crab to Westport. That's $25,000 more for your load. And the crew likes it because they make more money and get some sleep while trading off on wheel watches. It happens a lot.