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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2021, 11:28:26 AM »
so no spiny ray fish are native here? no catfish? I am sure there is some really important manipulated "Science" that backs it up but I believe that about as much as I believe the hype around COVID and any other gender besides Male or Female......... :o or that wolves need to be here...
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2021, 11:45:41 AM »
so no spiny ray fish are native here? no catfish? I am sure there is some really important manipulated "Science" that backs it up but I believe that about as much as I believe the hype around COVID and any other gender besides Male or Female......... :o or that wolves need to be here...

Even if it's true, I disagree with the premise that native fish should overrule the management of fisheries in every situation. Particularly in lowland lakes.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2021, 11:55:03 AM »
The term "native" (fill in the blank) is based on the notion that we pick an arbitrary point in time and what was there at that point is "native."  Pick an earlier point and that creature isn't native.  Pick a later point and a ton more is native.  I've never understood why we think a certain point in time just got everything right.  Nothing has been here forever, everything walked, crawled, swam or somehow got here.

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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2021, 11:56:49 AM »
nothing?
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2021, 12:11:19 PM »
What has been in Washington forever?  Washington hasn't even been here forever.

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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2021, 12:32:13 PM »
99% of lakes have both trout and Spiny rays.  If not, someone will put them in so they can catch the fish like they did back home. 
It would be great if we could manage a few lakes for only one or two species but it’s just not possible without people complaining or taking things in to their own hands.
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2021, 12:32:34 PM »
The term "native" (fill in the blank) is based on the notion that we pick an arbitrary point in time and what was there at that point is "native."  Pick an earlier point and that creature isn't native.  Pick a later point and a ton more is native.  I've never understood why we think a certain point in time just got everything right.  Nothing has been here forever, everything walked, crawled, swam or somehow got here.
No kidding. Hawaiians are considered native people. Yet the pigs they brought to the islands with them are considered non native. Both arrived at the same time. Go figure.

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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2021, 12:47:35 PM »
I'll gladly head east and do my part to dispose of the whitetails and pheasants!
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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2021, 12:52:44 PM »
Wanna do something cool for our rivers? Figure out how to get rid of the milfoil short of pulling the plug on the dams and draining the reservoirs of all the silt.

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Re: Non Native Fish
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2021, 02:31:15 PM »
The term "native" (fill in the blank) is based on the notion that we pick an arbitrary point in time and what was there at that point is "native."  Pick an earlier point and that creature isn't native.  Pick a later point and a ton more is native.  I've never understood why we think a certain point in time just got everything right.  Nothing has been here forever, everything walked, crawled, swam or somehow got here.
No kidding. Hawaiians are considered native people. Yet the pigs they brought to the islands with them are considered non native. Both arrived at the same time. Go figure.

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