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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2021, 09:37:54 PM »
The kuiu zippers and size are working well for me...  I’d look at those dimensions.  Needs to be pack width.

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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2021, 09:41:01 PM »
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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2021, 01:31:46 AM »
Look no further then the Kuiu game bags for a great example to model after.

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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2021, 07:48:17 AM »
Lightweight, durable, material that can be washed many times is what I try to find, it seems most bags available are either too lightweight and sometimes tear with your meat in them and pretty much need thrown away after one use, or the bags are made of material that is too heavy almost like canvas that nobody wants to have to carry until needed. I've got several sizes of bags, I like having multiple sizes of bags for these purposes:

Big Wide Bags - large enough to easily hold a half elk or half moose when closed
Narrow Long bags - that will hold a whole body deer
Quarter Bags - smaller version of the big wide bags, big enough to hold an elk shoulder or ham with bone in
Meat bags - For boned out meat, old pillow cases have worked ok, a little smaller would be just fine, we never seem to fill a pillow case

A synthetic blended material that is durable and lightweight would be great. I've been happy with draw strings in bags but am intrigued by the idea of zippers or hook and loop, but would that add unneeded weight to the bag? Maybe a cord similar to parachute cord but a little smaller would be a lighter weight option? It would be great to be able to buy lightweight durable washable bags to carry in your pack.
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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2021, 07:53:28 AM »
I would choose the wider bags that fit the bone in rear quarter for more options. Bigger bags filled with boneless meat are not an issue with a good pack with meat shelf or bag that cinches down. Last thing I would want is being forced to bone out a quarter if I didn’t have too.

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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2021, 08:02:48 AM »
Look no further then the Kuiu game bags for a great example to model after.

 :yeah:

First season with them last year, packed out a mule deer in Montana, and three blacktails in WA with them. Little to no stretch, stitched to shape, zippers, and reflective material for after dark meat recovery are my favorite aspects. I preferred to use more smaller/narrower bags than fewer larger bags so they would hold their shape better rather than the meat sagging/balling up towards the bottom of a larger bag.  Smaller bags are also easier to repack back at camp with other gear if you've got a combined meat/camp haul out to the rig.  :twocents:

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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2021, 11:23:58 AM »
I’m too old to be packing meat much anymore, but I preferred the versatility and ease of loading of a larger bag.  You can cinch cord(s) or strap(s) around the middle to keep meat inside from sagging.  Some cord sewn onto the side of the bag might achieve that by allowing the user to cinch it down with built in compression straps/cords. Unless I was leapfrogging loads, I lashed large meat sacks onto a pack frame with a diamond hitch, which cinches out sagging/bulging in any direction.   

 I like a reinforced “pierced ear” or loop on each top corner that allowed me to hang the meat sack on the top vertical bars of my old frame pack, with no tying.  You just lift the meat sack on and off with no tying/untying, quick and super easy for leapfrogging loads.

I'm prob not a typical customer...  :)


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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2021, 02:34:28 PM »
I used the kuiu zippered bags this last year and LOVED them. Would be nice to have a reinforced hanging loop at the end though. They have small loops but not quite big enough to hang on a branch to allow meat to cool down. Love the zippered entry as it allows for fast closure to keep flies/debris out while separating/boning another section of meat.

One thing that has always bugged me about game bags however, which is entirely a personal thing, is the fact that most game bag 'sets' come with 4 large quarter bags....that's it. My DREAM 'big game' set would be 5 large 'quarter' bags and 1 smaller bag, maybe half the size of the quarter bag....and here's why. 1 bag for each quarter (4), the additional for the cape which can be as large as a quarter of boned meat and as heavy. The final smaller bag for the premium cuts and 'extras'. I always carry a smaller cloth bag with me for this where I like to put the straps, loins, and heart; some guys even take the liver, kidneys, etc. When you buy the Kuiu bags, they are individual so you can get what you need, but I think a guy whos making a big game bag 'set' could do well with the added bags, IMO
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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2021, 09:10:53 PM »
I'd like to see smaller bags (length) but more of them in a bag kit to help keep the meat from balling up. Keep the opening the same width of bags. I have the Caribou's and soak and wash in detergent and bleach after each use. They've held up well.

Sorry, can't see the zipper bags and I wouldn't buy them. Just something else to worry about and go south at the worst possible time. Drawstrings are quick and easy to hang off of a branch, etc. for cooling and they prove their reliability every year.
 
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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2021, 09:15:23 PM »
I don't like the thin tall bags, too hard to get the meat into it. I prefer a wider bag and can work on cinching it down in my pack to keep it from balling up. I want strong material more than light weight. I would rather not buy new bags every year or 2, I can deal with a few extra oz in my pack if I can rely on the bag to last and not get holes in it when it is hanging from a tree for a few days. The closure is important, I want string or some type of closure that I can hang the heavy bag from, wrap around a limb or meat pole to let it hang over night or for a few days if needed.

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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2021, 11:51:20 PM »
So situational. I have carried OVIS sacks for a few years. I think they would be in the more square camp, I hate the plastic drawstring pulls on them. Love that they have a reflective material strip and compress real small.

We had an incident last year with a boned out elk quarter and it balled up, froze solid hanging before load 2 and we almost couldn't fit it in a Kuiu 7800. 

I would love to see a super lightweight bag that is strong enough for 70 lbs. of meat hanging slightly narrower and taller. It sounds like you also figured out a better way for the tie downs/plastic clamps instead of knotting the bageebers out of the paracord.

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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2021, 04:37:47 PM »
This is all very helpful information, thanks guys.

Seems like it's about even between wide and narrow bags, we might have to make both.

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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2021, 06:02:31 PM »
Both styles would sell IMO. I have tried lots of options and styles and so far none go unused. I maye taylor the hags I pack on a given hunt, depending on lots of factors, but An average elk will use 8 to 10 bags between hitting the ground and ending up on the cutting board. More if I hang it. But I usually change bags once im back at the rig. Get fresh bags, double check cleanliness of the meats and repack in dry fresh bags to go to cooler or freezer. Those bags are almost always the wider standard type bag.

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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2021, 06:21:18 PM »
For me it depends if I am deboning or just quartering. If deboning, the narrower bags are easy enough to get boned out meat in and they don't move around as much. If quartering bone in you need the wide mouth bags if you are on your own to get an Elk hind quarter in it. I prefer 5 bags total. The fifth bag is for Straps, Loins, Neck and Rib meat and Heart and Liver.
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Re: Question for those who bone out their elk
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2021, 06:46:26 PM »
I think something with the corners at the bottom sewn for some volume and then slightly wider at the top. Maybe 11 inches wide at the bottom and 14 at the top. Drawstring top. Reflective loops at the bottom, mid, and too sides are nice to help hang or tie them on a pack as well.

I have tag bomb bags and like them very well but they way they sew the top drawstring it makes the opening smaller than the rest of the bag.

 


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