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Re: Area 9
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2021, 06:57:22 PM »
I was told by a WDFW official once that "encounters" get a mortality percentage applied to them, something less than 1.


Fish checker: "Did you release anything today?"

Nope, not a thing.

Exactly...  :dunno:

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2021, 09:16:04 AM »
I was told by a WDFW official once that "encounters" get a mortality percentage applied to them, something less than 1.


Fish checker: "Did you release anything today?"

Nope, not a thing.

Exactly...  :dunno:

Gary

Do shakers count towards encounters as well?

I think the point is that 4,700 fish quota results in far less than 4,700 fish in coolers.  Subtract for wild releases, subtract for fish lost before the net, maybe subtract for shakers, probably subtract for under-reporting assumption, I wonder how many fish are actually taken home out of that 4,700?

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2021, 09:32:57 AM »
Got mine.

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2021, 10:28:29 AM »
I was told by a WDFW official once that "encounters" get a mortality percentage applied to them, something less than 1.
Fish checker: "Did you release anything today?"
Nope, not a thing.
Exactly...  :dunno:
Gary
Do shakers count towards encounters as well?
I think the point is that 4,700 fish quota results in far less than 4,700 fish in coolers.  Subtract for wild releases, subtract for fish lost before the net, maybe subtract for shakers, probably subtract for under-reporting assumption, I wonder how many fish are actually taken home out of that 4,700?

Any chinook related counts.  Shakers/sublegal have their own quota, though looking at the website, 9 doesn't.  So that either means they all count or it hasn't been updated yet.

https://wdfw.wa.gov/fishing/reports/creel/seasonal#ps-summer-chinook

Even if you tell them 0 caught, 0 shakers, etc, WDFW has test fishery boats that are going out there and fishing along side everyone.  They then use that data and apply it to total boat counts along with survey results from the docks.

I agree though, report your chinook caught and retained.  it's not going to hurt anything, even if it doesn't really make a difference.

What speeds/wire angle have you all been having success with Chinook?  I still haven't finished my kicker motor steering linkage, but can run the main engine around 2.5 mph slowest.  Not ideal to use the main for trolling, but not the end of the world.

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2021, 10:45:29 AM »


What speeds/wire angle have you all been having success with Chinook?  I still haven't finished my kicker motor steering linkage, but can run the main engine around 2.5 mph slowest.  Not ideal to use the main for trolling, but not the end of the world.


I usually troll at 1.5 for nooks 15-45 degree of angle max, depends on tide flow/ direction of flo
You can try dragging buckets, but that’s a p.I.t.a.fighting fish.
Shift out of forward  constantly to stay slow, bad on gear box?
Mooch, jig, not a bad way to go
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Re: Area 9
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2021, 10:52:16 AM »

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2021, 10:53:13 AM »
I often catch kings go much faster than those around me. Worth a shot.

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2021, 11:01:51 AM »
Worst case you could troll against the current, might work if you are finding bait and can stay on them.  Looks like the wind will help this weekend as well.  I pull a bucket for kokanee, just get it out of the water quick if you hook a fish.

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2021, 11:30:33 AM »


What speeds/wire angle have you all been having success with Chinook?  I still haven't finished my kicker motor steering linkage, but can run the main engine around 2.5 mph slowest.  Not ideal to use the main for trolling, but not the end of the world.


I usually troll at 1.5 for nooks 15-45 degree of angle max, depends on tide flow/ direction of flo
You can try dragging buckets, but that’s a p.I.t.a.fighting fish.
Shift out of forward  constantly to stay slow, bad on gear box?
Mooch, jig, not a bad way to go

Commercial trollers run at 5-6mph.  I rarely troll for Chinook less than 3mph.

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2021, 11:43:37 AM »
Commercial trollers are in the ocean, I think there is a big difference in chinook behavior in the ocean and when they get to MA9 or 10.  I do about 2.5, slower than coho and haven't seen the fast trollers catch much around me but who knows.  I'll probably try fast next time I get bored since it sounds like some of you guys hook them like that.

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2021, 01:38:13 PM »
thanks all for the trolling tips.  I'll give it a go this weekend and try to find some time to redo the linkage to the kicker.

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2021, 02:02:16 PM »
1 1/2 hr drive and 10 minutes of fishing for 3 limits. We were planning on catching and releasing to get some bigger fish but they were all in the mid to upper teens.

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2021, 03:12:48 PM »
Caught 2 silvers, 2 dogs and 8 keeper crab. I only saw a couple nets fly.

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Re: Area 9
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2021, 04:47:57 PM »
2 wild ones
One shaker
Quit at noon
Back out tomorrow
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Re: Area 9
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2021, 09:13:48 PM »
Cancel any plans you have for Chinook in Sekiu, they're closing it to Chinook retention plus the Skykomish and Tulalip Bubble. Sorry folks.

 


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