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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2009, 11:03:14 AM »
Agreed deaddog!

My understanding, it's a lure/decoy technique. Dog goes on chase then dog gets called back, reverse chase happens bringing yote in. Never heard of dogs chasing and killing yotes technique before? But even if that is a technique, we use falcons to hunt and kill our quarry in a similar manner. That's not "sporting"?

Using dogs sounds just as "sporting" as a lot of other techniques to me? And while we are at it, you guys who disagree should define "sporting"! Where does it stop? Outlaw calls, scents, other attractants? Falconry? Maybe, if you have to use dogs to find your upland birds, you are just not "sporting"? I mean, let's not get hypocritical now!!
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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2009, 11:05:58 AM »
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Sad to see that even here, folks who dont know a damn thing about it would vote to have it unlawfull. If we cant get support on this issue from supposed hunters here, what chance against the damn wdf and its F#%^&g peta partners, do we have? Some of you guys make me want to puke! 

maybe educating folks would be better than getting pissed off. start a new thread and explain how it works.
i know how decoying works, but honestly don't know how anything else works.

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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2009, 11:08:20 AM »
you can use dogs as decoys to hunt yotes with if hounding is to barbaric for you

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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2009, 11:09:52 AM »
anyone care to start a thread explaining the ins and outs of hound hunting coyotes?
i betcha there's a bunch on here that don't know how it works.
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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2009, 11:11:47 AM »
ive never done it, not on purpose atleast, but they run them and bay them up. they give you just bout the best chase you can get too

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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2009, 01:11:09 PM »
Im pissed off because the law was changed without imput from anyone except the damn antis, and Im pissed that anyone would vote on any issue without knowledge off the issue, its irresponsible atleast! I use my dog for a decoy, he sits next to me or wanders around close, I call, most times he knows before I can see them and watches that area, puts me on alert as to what direction they are coming from, he wont chase them down or even get close until I kill them. He loves his job as much as I love having my best friend with me, I dont take him every time, he hates me leaving the house in camo, he knows. :chuckle: At what point do we judge our life style, I dont like the term sport, by a warn and fuzzy felling some one gets thinking about the poor little fuzzy. Do we want to kill every thing that moves, of course not, we understand about conservation and want to protect the very animals we then hunt. If uesing dogs was realy hurting the coyote population or some other reason  that is in the best interest of the eco system, I would not only stop using my dog, I would support that change until the problem was resoveld and that method of hunting was viable once more, not a endless law that we see with every other use of dogs or hounds for the chase. Do you guys realy think this is just one little change that dont effect me, so screw it, just go along? If you do, you need to sit down and think hard about who is winning on these issues. It will be your method, style,  that they attack next.
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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2009, 01:13:18 PM »
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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2009, 01:45:19 PM »
anyone care to start a thread explaining the ins and outs of hound hunting coyotes?
i betcha there's a bunch on here that don't know how it works.

I doubt Bearpaw (this topic starter) would mind if people started discussing hound hunting coyotes right here in this thread. :dunno:

Anyway, I don't know much about it.  Although I did see a few minutes of a video at sportsman show where hounds were used to chase down coyotes and when they caught them, they tore the S$_t out of them.  I have no desire to witness that type of activity, but on the other hand I don't think it should be outlawed.  Just like I didn't have any desire to go trapping, but I don't think that activity should have been banned either.  The guys with hounds have really gotten shafted in this state.

And another thing.........should we just sit back and allow the WDFW to just start outlawing activities that they decide are socially unacceptable?  What if they decide bow hunting is not acceptabte........or what if they decide cougar hunting is not acceptable....or wait, they already did. ;)
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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2009, 02:14:33 PM »
Okay, I started another thread over here
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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2009, 02:29:01 PM »
I agree curly.
To me, Hunting is hunting. What method one chooses is subject to interpretation of ethical, sporting or what ever term you choose, to another. Personally, I  see the terms ethical or sporting as loosely defined at best and not applicable or at least endlessly debateable.
It's just another chip out of the bigger picture to me.
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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2009, 04:36:04 PM »
Don't Knock it till you've tried it(trained a hound) there is the problem, general thoughts with no experience make laws

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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2009, 04:37:53 PM »
I love a little cyote carnage.....not enough if you ask me :dunno:
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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2009, 04:40:02 PM »
looks like we need to boot about 12.5 percent of the people who voted on here.

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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2009, 05:33:13 PM »
Someone asked how dogs hunt coyotes?????

Well it is as diverse as bird hunting with dogs. To my knowledge these are the types of dogs used.

Decoy Dogs - These dogs are trained to run out a couple hundred yards or so, get the attention of the coyote, and run back to the owner, who hopefully can hit the ensueing coyote.

Hounds - These dogs pursue a coyote in much the same way as pursuing a bear, except the coyote usually has more endurance than most dogs, and even most bear. Because the coyote generally makes very large circles, the hunter can figure out where to hopefully ambush the coyote for an effective shot.

Beagles - Some guys like using beagles or similar small dogs. The chase is usually slower and coyotes will often run a smaller circle. Same method, the hunter tries to get himself into a good ambush spot hoping for a shot.

Catch Dogs - These are often greyhounds or a similar type dog. They have great eyesight and speed. The hunter must first locate a coyote that the dogs can get sight of, they then have a chance of catching the coyote and killing it.
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Re: You Can No Longer Hunt Coyote With Hounds....
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2009, 05:53:48 PM »
I AM LOOKING FOR A COMPLETE DISCUSSION ON COYOTE HUNTIN HERE. I WELCOME ALL QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION, I WILL TRY TO CHECK BACK AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.......I want to educate those who don't know and get a feel for what the hunting community thinks about this subject.

Remember to vote in the poll on the top of this page........

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