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Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« on: September 29, 2021, 11:04:22 AM »
Wdfw is proposing a small decrease in Tag number for the spring season. They are taking public comment

https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-calls-for-public-comment-on-spring-2022-black-bear-permit-hunt-proposal/

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2021, 11:06:11 AM »
Wdfw is proposing a small decrease in Tag number for the spring season. They are taking public comment

https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-calls-for-public-comment-on-spring-2022-black-bear-permit-hunt-proposal/
why the hell would they decrease the tag allotment? I swear theyre trying to get rid of any non predators.
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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2021, 11:10:17 AM »
Wdfw is proposing a small decrease in Tag number for the spring season. They are taking public comment

https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-calls-for-public-comment-on-spring-2022-black-bear-permit-hunt-proposal/
why the hell would they decrease the tag allotment? I swear theyre trying to get rid of any non predators.

I’m scratching my head too... get those comments up there fellas. Might help, might fall on deaf ears  :dunno:

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2021, 11:16:25 AM »
Unfortunately it looks again to be written to arrive at a certain answer.  We are given the option of:

A) Support continued reduction in tags and opportunity and overly burdensome pelt requirements, or
B) Do not support spring bear hunting.

There should be two questions:

1) Do you support spring bear hunting?
2) If so, do you support the modifications to the program? (namely reduced opportunity again despite large numbers of problem bears and low harvest and continuation of pelt requirement)

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2021, 11:19:11 AM »
Wdfw is proposing a small decrease in Tag number for the spring season. They are taking public comment

https://nwsportsmanmag.com/wdfw-calls-for-public-comment-on-spring-2022-black-bear-permit-hunt-proposal/
why the hell would they decrease the tag allotment? I swear theyre trying to get rid of any non predators.

I’m scratching my head too... get those comments up there fellas. Might help, might fall on deaf ears  :dunno:

It's in the attached doc:

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The reduction in permit numbers for hunt unit 684 (from 10 to 6) will reduce crowding in
accessible areas of mostly private land. T

GMU 684 has a 40% reduction in available tags.  The other change is reinforcing the pelt requirement.  Pelt with attached skull and proof of sex required to be presented to WDFW within 5 days of notification of the kill.

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2021, 11:30:34 AM »
Sadly, they are going to do what they are going to do.  In other words your comments mean Jack *censored*.

Unfortunately we are obligated to comment or really don’t have the right to bitch. 

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2021, 11:40:03 AM »
Left a comment anyway. Looking through most of the comments though it seems to lean in the pro-hunting, increase tags direction...

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2021, 12:13:42 PM »
The #1 growing population in this state to hunt and they want to reduce opportunity again..  :o

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2021, 12:22:55 PM »
Always feels like you did your part by commenting, but it's a joke, they have already made up their minds, they just want us to think we have a say.   I'm glad to see they only reduced the permits in one unit. 
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2021, 12:44:41 PM »
Left a comment.
I don't think it matters much,this is just the red tape before the hammer drops.
Some of you guys might not like my comment that much,but I'm going to tell ya anyway.
Here it is.


General spring season!!!
With a 1 Bear limit ,Spring or Fall  ,illegal to shoot sow with cubs Spring or Fall,Bear harvest and estimated Bear Population could support this. Also leveling out harvest to sustainable for future Hunters and bear alike. Revenue goes up,Bear population goes up,Hunters are happy .
Seems other states are able to achieve this yet Washington lacks the skill and educated wildlife personal that can't achieve this. Does anybody read these comments, This comment Stuff is a joke.

Just wanted to add above is my comment. But I really don't think bear population would go up,but would stay about the same,but my above comment was just a pitch with no homerun of course.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 12:55:57 PM by hunter399 »

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2021, 01:14:32 PM »
Always feels like you did your part by commenting, but it's a joke, they have already made up their minds, they just want us to think we have a say.   I'm glad to see they only reduced the permits in one unit.

Sounds like elections
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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2021, 01:19:38 PM »
Always feels like you did your part by commenting, but it's a joke, they have already made up their minds, they just want us to think we have a say.   I'm glad to see they only reduced the permits in one unit.

Sounds like elections
exactly!
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2021, 01:32:41 PM »
Left a comment.
I don't think it matters much,this is just the red tape before the hammer drops.
Some of you guys might not like my comment that much,but I'm going to tell ya anyway.
Here it is.


General spring season!!!
With a 1 Bear limit ,Spring or Fall  ,illegal to shoot sow with cubs Spring or Fall,Bear harvest and estimated Bear Population could support this. Also leveling out harvest to sustainable for future Hunters and bear alike. Revenue goes up,Bear population goes up,Hunters are happy .
Seems other states are able to achieve this yet Washington lacks the skill and educated wildlife personal that can't achieve this. Does anybody read these comments, This comment Stuff is a joke.

Just wanted to add above is my comment. But I really don't think bear population would go up,but would stay about the same,but my above comment was just a pitch with no homerun of course.

So accidental lactating killed sows get left to rot. I get to kill one less bear every year. And the population goes up? How is any of that a good thing?

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2021, 01:57:05 PM »
Left a comment.
I don't think it matters much,this is just the red tape before the hammer drops.
Some of you guys might not like my comment that much,but I'm going to tell ya anyway.
Here it is.


General spring season!!!
With a 1 Bear limit ,Spring or Fall  ,illegal to shoot sow with cubs Spring or Fall,Bear harvest and estimated Bear Population could support this. Also leveling out harvest to sustainable for future Hunters and bear alike. Revenue goes up,Bear population goes up,Hunters are happy .
Seems other states are able to achieve this yet Washington lacks the skill and educated wildlife personal that can't achieve this. Does anybody read these comments, This comment Stuff is a joke.

Just wanted to add above is my comment. But I really don't think bear population would go up,but would stay about the same,but my above comment was just a pitch with no homerun of course.

So accidental lactating killed sows get left to rot. I get to kill one less bear every year. And the population goes up? How is any of that a good thing?
I figured I get the this💩that💩and this sounds like a bad idea.
Oh Well everybody is untitled to there own.
But I thought it sounded better than less tags.
Which is what we got.
So .......... What's your plan harvest all the bears. And never see a reduction. How is the loss of deer( bluetongue) gonna effect bear numbers. Have you factored in harvest reports,past season regulations,what are current est. Population and about a dozen other factors ,Let's not forget climate change and its effect .😏😏😏😏
This is how WDFW thinks and works man.
Don't the forget 5 and 10 and 25 year study we have to do ,that will tell you that the regulations should stay the same as 30 years ago. :chuckle: :chuckle:


« Last Edit: September 29, 2021, 02:04:31 PM by hunter399 »

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Re: Comment on Spring Bear Proposal(2022)
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2021, 02:04:22 PM »
Same situation as shooting a 1x2 elk in a true spike unit (or any other illegal kill), it's a violation of the regulations.  We don't prevent elk hunting general seasons because of the potential for illegal kills, we rely on hunters to do the right thing and enforcement and people calling it in.

In this case, I believe the WDFW is responding to significant public opinion that shooting a sow with cubs is bad and shouldn't happen.  If we can say there are measures in place, spring hunting might be able to continue, or at least have one fewer negative point to argue.

Unfortunately, I don't think that will be the end of the discussion, dragging wet pelts into WDFW and having a permit system won't stop the detractors and they will argue one of their other several bullet points which will likely either stop the spring hunting or place additional burdens on WDFW and hunters to keep it open.

 


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