e-bike on state land survey

[SuperX]

will the silent nature of e-bikes open up harvest opportunities for road hunting?  I think the deer will just stand there and stare at you...  Rifle loaded on the rack, ready to go, all you'd need to do is put your feet down and shoot!

[CP]

will the silent nature of e-bikes open up harvest opportunities for road hunting?  I think the deer will just stand there and stare at you...  Rifle loaded on the rack, ready to go, all you'd need to do is put your feet down and shoot!

Actually, not the case.  Deer are used to engine driven vehicles.  They usually stand and stare at them, at least until you turn the engine off.  Highly skilled road hunters always leave the engine on.

E-vehicles however are different.  Deer don’t see them often and they don’t like something strange approaching them.  They don’t seem to be the least bit curious.

[Cylvertip]

Non-motorized means non-motorized. They have a motor.  I could see them for disabled hunters, but otherwise, no joy from me.  if you are going to allow these, might as well allow other motorcycles/ quads/ sleds.

[SuperX]

will the silent nature of e-bikes open up harvest opportunities for road hunting?  I think the deer will just stand there and stare at you...  Rifle loaded on the rack, ready to go, all you'd need to do is put your feet down and shoot!

Actually, not the case.  Deer are used to engine driven vehicles.  They usually stand and stare at them, at least until you turn the engine off.  Highly skilled road hunters always leave the engine on.

E-vehicles however are different.  Deer don’t see them often and they don’t like something strange approaching them.  They don’t seem to be the least bit curious.

I'll defer to your experience, but remember you have to open your door to shoot in a car, if you could shoot out the window of your car legally, would that be fair?

[CP]

will the silent nature of e-bikes open up harvest opportunities for road hunting?  I think the deer will just stand there and stare at you...  Rifle loaded on the rack, ready to go, all you'd need to do is put your feet down and shoot!

Actually, not the case.  Deer are used to engine driven vehicles.  They usually stand and stare at them, at least until you turn the engine off.  Highly skilled road hunters always leave the engine on.

E-vehicles however are different.  Deer don’t see them often and they don’t like something strange approaching them.  They don’t seem to be the least bit curious.

I'll defer to your experience, but remember you have to open your door to shoot in a car, if you could shoot out the window of your car legally, would that be fair?

Not commenting on what is fair or what isn’t, just what I’ve observed of animal behavior.

[trophyhunt]

And if it’s open to bicycles it should be open to ebikes as well.

How bout dirt bikes?

my opinion, no. Lots of differences between those two.

[trophyhunt]

Those 20 mile range stats are just wrong when you are talking in the hills riding. I have a spot that is 6 miles and steep for 90% of it. Luckily I have 2 batteries because at 4 miles, my first battery is dead. That 20 mile range may be for a flat or down hill pavement ride but not a chance on our back roads.

[JakeLand]

Ebikes shouldn't be running up on pack animals because they should be on orv trails, with other motorized vehicles.

and besides, you don't ride llamas so you're still hiking 


There's not enough horse camps to support a huge user group like ebikes with trailers either taking up those spots.   Like I said its a new user group pushing out an old user group.

evolution it happens , ya you don’t ride a Lama but it hauls gear in and out and meat out too sooo it is a major help as is a e- bike . Horses and mules are pain but they again help out a ton for wilderness hunting and they tear up area way more then a E-bike and I’m not against the use of pack animals at all because in a sense a E-bike is a electric horse with less of a foot print on the landscape my 

[KFhunter]

If it weren't for the horse trails and horse people clearing them, where would the ebikes ride in these areas? Lots of work keeping those trails clear, especially once you enter wilderness and no more chainsaw horse.

[huntnnw]

Im 100% against these bikes on roads or trails that you cannot ride a dirtbike on

[Scruffy]

This is 100% Inslee's agenda.  Not trying to turn this political but he wants everyone in an EV buy 2030 so why not give some incentive to Ebike riders.  Then more people will run out and get them.  He is also creating division amongst the hunting community by have the WDFW present this survey. 

I personally feel if the road/path is closed to motorized vehicles then no Ebikes.  Where I hunted the road was gated for motorized vehicles and guys took their Ebike in there.  You can't hear them coming up behind you until they are passing you doing 20+mph.  Who is getting sued if they hit someone?  Most places are remote so emergency services are a long wait.  Just my 

[hunter399]

Normally I'm pretty hard against.
But .......
I've been thinking on it,everybody goes around the gates anyway on ATV,SXS, or whatever with a motor.
Knowing there breaking the rules.
While I'm stuck walking is getting old fast.
Why shouldn't I get to use an ebike ,should be the question.
There is already people back there.
Few places I hunt there are ATV trail around every gate.
I was at one gate yesterday,doing some target shooting.
I had to wait before shooting for two SXS to come out from behind the gate,middle of the week,only thing open is,turkey,coyote,maybe cougar.

[GWP]

And if it’s open to bicycles it should be open to ebikes as well.

How bout dirt bikes?

How about the electric dirt bikes?
Yes, they do exist.

[hunter399]

And if it’s open to bicycles it should be open to ebikes as well.

How bout dirt bikes?

How about the electric dirt bikes?
Yes, they do exist.

Slippery slope ⛰
Like I said in my post ,the guys with gas motor are already back there.
Motor is a motor electric or gas.
The problem isn't the motor ,lack of enforcement,people that feel the rules don't apply to them.
Is the problem.

[trophyhunt]

And if it’s open to bicycles it should be open to ebikes as well.

How bout dirt bikes?

How about the electric dirt bikes?
Yes, they do exist.

just depends on the watts I guess.  I don’t want to see jumps, burn outs and doughnut marks in the wilderness just like most. The feds have a 750 watt and under set for now that they consider NON motorized. Obviously 750 and under still has a motor but it’s nothing like most people think it is, so if the electric dirt bike is 750 and under, sure. And just a reminder, I’m only talking about trails that allow mountain bikes, I’m not for ebikes in the wilderness where even regular bikes aren’t allowed.