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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #135 on: May 13, 2022, 07:58:06 AM »
Their peddle assist not motorized.

If that is the only consideration then gas powered mopeds (pedal assist) should be allowed as well? Similar speeds.
Love those old two stroke mopeds!
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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #136 on: May 13, 2022, 08:00:10 AM »
Their peddle assist not motorized.

If that is the only consideration then gas powered mopeds (pedal assist) should be allowed as well? Similar speeds.
Love those old two stroke mopeds!
750 watts or less

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #137 on: May 13, 2022, 08:30:16 AM »
Just program in a 750w nanny switch  :chuckle:

Lot's of ebikes are "750 watts" but push a button and blammo, uncorked

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #138 on: May 14, 2022, 08:50:21 AM »
When my wife and i were younger we hiked in as we got older we bought mountain bikes. Now that we're in our senior years we have peddle assist bikes so that we can still enjoy the outdoors. The chains break and tires go flat like a standard bike but it keeps us out. We're not interested in breaking land speed records or being the farthest in. It just keeps us outdoors rather it be hunting, fishing or berry picking. Lets keep the older folks in mind when concidering these topics.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #139 on: May 14, 2022, 09:19:46 AM »
When my wife and i were younger we hiked in as we got older we bought mountain bikes. Now that we're in our senior years we have peddle assist bikes so that we can still enjoy the outdoors. The chains break and tires go flat like a standard bike but it keeps us out. We're not interested in breaking land speed records or being the farthest in. It just keeps us outdoors rather it be hunting, fishing or berry picking. Lets keep the older folks in mind when concidering these topics.
how selfish of you!! Your too old now, let the younger peeps have the woods!!

 :chuckle: I’m being sarcastic but I bet half the anti ebikers feel that way.
“In common with”..... not so much!!

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #140 on: May 14, 2022, 05:29:10 PM »
 :chuckle: :chuckle:

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #141 on: May 14, 2022, 07:48:42 PM »
I don’t see any reason not to allow electric bikes in areas already open to bicycles. They don’t cause any more damage than a normal bicycle, nor do they make significantly more noise than a regular bicycle. I understand the frustration of being hiked miles down a gated road or trail, only to have bicycles (motorized or non), horses, pack stock, or even other foot hikers come in behind you. However, I don’t think this frustration should influence the choice of whether or not to allow ebikes in areas that other bikes are already allowed. It will ultimately help to disperse people and give opportunities to all.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #142 on: May 15, 2022, 08:29:55 AM »
E-bikes and Mtn bikes don't mix will.  The speed difference makes them fairly incompatible, much like hikers vs Mtn bikers.  I suspect the biking and hiking communities, not to mention the horse folks, will be very much against this, at least as far as trails are concerned.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2022, 10:12:39 AM by MR5x5 »

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #143 on: May 15, 2022, 08:58:42 AM »
Just program in a 750w nanny switch  :chuckle:

Lot's of ebikes are "750 watts" but push a button and blammo, uncorked
750 W is actually a lot power especially considering the extended run times of an E-bike.  Not many in the competitive world of bikes can hold more than 250W for more than an hour, and only a small percentage like those in tour de France can keep at 400W.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #144 on: May 15, 2022, 09:15:03 AM »
I really think all user groups should have same opportunity. We all need to work together to keep our land open before they close it all. No one group should have it all. Most area's we ride in we dont see anyone. Maybe a couple horses and there isnt any issues.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #145 on: May 15, 2022, 09:42:09 AM »
Just program in a 750w nanny switch  :chuckle:

Lot's of ebikes are "750 watts" but push a button and blammo, uncorked
750 W is actually a lot power especially considering the extended run times of an E-bike.  Not many in the competitive world of bikes can hold more than 250W for more than an hour, and only a small percentage like those in tour de France can keep at 400W.

You're talking about human output of 400w equivalent, I get that.  I'm not interested in how much watts I can pedal, only interested in if that bike can lug me and my crap "up there"

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #146 on: May 15, 2022, 10:09:51 AM »
Just program in a 750w nanny switch  :chuckle:

Lot's of ebikes are "750 watts" but push a button and blammo, uncorked
750 W is actually a lot power especially considering the extended run times of an E-bike.  Not many in the competitive world of bikes can hold more than 250W for more than an hour, and only a small percentage like those in tour de France can keep at 400W.

You're talking about human output of 400w equivalent, I get that.  I'm not interested in how much watts I can pedal, only interested in if that bike can lug me and my crap "up there"
yeah, 750 W can seriously haul...you'll probably be fine.  Even hauling out an elk.  I was just pointing out how much you might want to expect from various power.  It would be like having the power of five or six normal guys pedaling.  My neighbor's Ebike is 750W, about 70-75 lbs (has the double battery) and with my weight --200lbs gets to about 34 mph.

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #147 on: May 15, 2022, 10:14:29 AM »
Just program in a 750w nanny switch  :chuckle:

Lot's of ebikes are "750 watts" but push a button and blammo, uncorked
750 W is actually a lot power especially considering the extended run times of an E-bike.  Not many in the competitive world of bikes can hold more than 250W for more than an hour, and only a small percentage like those in tour de France can keep at 400W.

You're talking about human output of 400w equivalent, I get that.  I'm not interested in how much watts I can pedal, only interested in if that bike can lug me and my crap "up there"
yeah, 750 W can seriously haul...you'll probably be fine.  Even hauling out an elk.  I was just pointing out how much you might want to expect from various power.  It would be like having the power of five or six normal guys pedaling.  My neighbor's Ebike is 750W, about 70-75 lbs (has the double battery) and with my weight --200lbs gets to about 34 mph.

EBike - really much more an EMotorcycle than an EBicycle.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2022, 10:43:30 AM by MR5x5 »

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #148 on: May 15, 2022, 10:56:20 AM »
I'm not going to disparage ebike users, I understand the pros and cons. 

I just worry about reducing ORV access for gas vehicles

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Re: e-bike on state land survey
« Reply #149 on: May 15, 2022, 01:08:56 PM »
What did I hear about a EV charger at Deer Creek summit campground on the trailhead?

 


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