Removing the Snake River dams

[jeffro]

Haven’t seen this discussion here?
I think it the is dumbest idea to cross Inlee and Murrays feeble minds.
How do you justify removing 1000 megawatts of power from the grid
And still push for electric cars
At a cost of ~30 billion to replace the black out hole?
Not to mention the irrigation and transportation of 1/3 of this states agriculture crops to market,
Don’t forget Idaho also!
All with the reasoning of saving the Puget Sound Orcas,
Those fish don’t swim here, stupid a**es

Edit: I fish the Snake at least once a year out of Heller Bar,
Catch tons of fish

Rant over

[Rainier10]

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,271692.msg3688134/topicseen.html#new

Over in the political board.

[jeffro]

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,271692.msg3688134/topicseen.html#new

Over in the political board.

Appears I’m not allowed there?

[Bob33]

https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,271692.msg3688134/topicseen.html#new

Over in the political board.

Appears I’m not allowed there?

Membership is optional.

[MeepDog]

The politics can be ignored for this topic. 1000Mw isn't that crazy. Columbia Generating Station on the hanford site puts out 1200MW on its own and has a tiny footprint. Those dams are suffocating that river and have turned the river into prime habitat for the warm water invasive species. The real issue is that grain farmers have gotten used to easy irrigation and barges to ship their produce for cheap. On top of all that, the built up sediment at the base of the dams could choke the river if released all at once. Do I still think we should do it? Heck yeah. The snake should flow like the Hanford reach not stagnate in big pools.

[Boss .300 winmag]

The politics can be ignored for this topic. 1000Mw isn't that crazy. Columbia Generating Station on the hanford site puts out 1200MW on its own and has a tiny footprint. Those dams are suffocating that river and have turned the river into prime habitat for the warm water invasive species. The real issue is that grain farmers have gotten used to easy irrigation and barges to ship their produce for cheap. On top of all that, the built up sediment at the base of the dams could choke the river if released all at once. Do I still think we should do it? Heck yeah. The snake should flow like the Hanford reach not stagnate in big pools.

So our energy costs can soar.🤬

https://www.synapse-energy.com/sites/default/files/SynapsePaper.2008-07.0.Nuclear-Plant-Construction-Costs.A0022_0.pdf

[Timberstalker]

The politics can be ignored for this topic. 1000Mw isn't that crazy. Columbia Generating Station on the hanford site puts out 1200MW on its own and has a tiny footprint. Those dams are suffocating that river and have turned the river into prime habitat for the warm water invasive species. The real issue is that grain farmers have gotten used to easy irrigation and barges to ship their produce for cheap. On top of all that, the built up sediment at the base of the dams could choke the river if released all at once. Do I still think we should do it? Heck yeah. The snake should flow like the Hanford reach not stagnate in big pools.

Let’s go Brandon!!!!!

[JimmyHoffa]

It's sounding like the hydroelectric reservoirs in a few parts of the country are getting so low that they may go off line.  That electricity will have to be replaced by another source.  I'm guessing there could be some electricity shuffled around this summer.  How much will rates go up?  Anything noticeable and most people will tell the salmon and orcas to just pound sand.

[Sandberm]

The politics can be ignored for this topic. 1000Mw isn't that crazy. Columbia Generating Station on the hanford site puts out 1200MW on its own and has a tiny footprint. Those dams are suffocating that river and have turned the river into prime habitat for the warm water invasive species. The real issue is that grain farmers have gotten used to easy irrigation and barges to ship their produce for cheap. On top of all that, the built up sediment at the base of the dams could choke the river if released all at once. Do I still think we should do it? Heck yeah. The snake should flow like the Hanford reach not stagnate in big pools.

It doesnt bother you about losing 8% of our states power production?

You mention the Nuke plant at Handford and the huge amount of power it makes, I AGREE, THATS GREAT!...problem is... the powers that be have already determined that when that plants worn out they wont build another nuke plant, too expensive.

How do you feel about the whole horse heaven skyline being dotted with windmills?

[Timberstalker]

The simple fact that people think that the salmon population is more important than the recreation, transportation, power, irrigation and other benefits of the damn is absolutely mind boggling to me.

How about these lazy liberal f$cks address the predators that are hammering the salmon?

Stupid liberals.

[HunterStrait]

Are salmon and steelhead no longer important?

[Timberstalker]

Plenty important; the dams are just far more important than those giant stocked trout.

[Jonathan_S]

The simple fact that people think that the salmon population is more important than the recreation, transportation, power, irrigation and other benefits of the damn is absolutely mind boggling to me.

How about these lazy liberal f$cks address the predators that are hammering the salmon?

Stupid liberals.

"Stupid liberals" is one thing but in the interest of an honest conversation...

1) The sockeye are native and are probably only several generations from extinction.

2) the smolt of the fish that go all the way up the Snake River just spend too much time in slow waters to sustain populations.

Here is how I think of it: will the dams be necessary in 1000 years? 100 years? 30? If the answer to any of those is not "yes", why is it so wrong to talk about it now?

[Sandberm]

Why not rip out Bonneville, Jon Day, TheDalles and McNary first? Fish gotta swim through those first before they get to the Snake river.

How about we get rid of the nets up and down that section of the columbia too? Seems a bit easier to try that first.

All those windmills by Goldendale and along the horse heavens...they only work in concert WITH dams, not instead of them.

[Timberstalker]

Will removing the dams help the salmon?  Absolutely!

Tell me the repercussions of removing them is worth it.

Give me an honest justification.

It’s not the good old days. Gone are the days of “native” salmon fishing with high numbers of fish.
The nets, seals, terns, cormorants, Indians, etc are far more damaging than the concrete.

I’ll wait.